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    <title>topic Re: Is it possible to use TensorFlow SSD-MobileNet on NCS? in Intel® Distribution of OpenVINO™ Toolkit</title>
    <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639203#M1037</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;@Tome_at_Intel We are currently developing prototype hardware based on ASUS TinkerBoard (Raspberry Pi style Arm CPU) and a Myriad Chip (same as NCS).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The Caffe SSD MobileNet Model performs worse than the TensorFlow SSD MobileNet and the training process is better with TensorFlow so you can understand why people really want that capability.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I believe we cant use OpenVINO because we dont have an intel CPU:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;A href="https://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/computer-vision/topic/781076"&gt;https://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/computer-vision/topic/781076&lt;/A&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Which means we must use the NCSDK.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;Will TensorFlow MobileNet SSD ever some to the NCSDK (like definitely just not for a bit), or is it possible it wont ever come and that the future support will all be handled through OpenVINO?&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I know its possible you can't answer questions relating to future product decisions but we need to know now, is the NCSDK a dead end to be replaced with OpenVINO? Will OpenVINO ever support CPUs other than Intel (its supposed to be a open project to compete with CUDA no?)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would love any clarification you can provide on the topic. :smile: &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;Thank you.</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2018 23:34:28 GMT</pubDate>
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    <dc:date>2018-07-30T23:34:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Is it possible to use TensorFlow SSD-MobileNet on NCS?</title>
      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639159#M993</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm working with an object detection model and I would like to use TensorFlow version of SSD-MobileNet. I saw the Caffe version and tried to retrain it, but the results were very poor. After training for 100 hours the mAP was still less than 0.03. I tried to tweak the learning rate and aspect ratios to better suit my dataset (my objects are mostly squares), but that didn't help. Then I switched to TensorFlow Object Detection API to see if there is a problem in my dataset. However, after training for just 6 hours I already got a mAP of 0.5. I also noticed that the TensorFlow version is also much faster on my machine; (0.6 sec / iteration) vs (2 sec / iteration) on caffe. So the TensorFlow version works much better and I'd like to use that instead if possible.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is there any way to convert the model to NCS? And if direct conversion from TensorFlow to NCS is not possible, would it be possible to convert the model to Caffe format and then to NCS? Or could I just copy the TensorFlow model weights to the equivalent Caffe model?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 05:15:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639159#M993</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-04-25T05:15:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is it possible to use TensorFlow SSD-MobileNet on NCS?</title>
      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639160#M994</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm also interested in this - any feedback on this from anyone?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 04:57:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639160#M994</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-30T04:57:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is it possible to use TensorFlow SSD-MobileNet on NCS?</title>
      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639161#M995</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Me too!  I've got a working model on object detection API.  Would love to find a way to do this.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2018 00:15:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639161#M995</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-06-02T00:15:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is it possible to use TensorFlow SSD-MobileNet on NCS?</title>
      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639162#M996</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@manto @djaenicke @owlie We apologize, but the current NCSDK (2.04.00.06) doesn't have support for SSD Mobilenet on TensorFlow yet. As you mentioned we do support SSD MobileNet on Caffe as an alternative. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As far as re-training SSD Mobilenet on Caffe, you can try using &lt;A href="https://github.com/listenlink/caffe/tree/ssd"&gt;https://github.com/listenlink/caffe/tree/ssd&lt;/A&gt; for more efficient DWS convolution with CUDNN 9.  &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2018 00:26:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639162#M996</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-06-02T00:26:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is it possible to use TensorFlow SSD-MobileNet on NCS?</title>
      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639163#M997</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You can try Intel OpenVINO™ toolkit. It supports Inference of SSD MobileNet from the TensorFlow Object Detection model zoo on NCS using the Myriad plugin.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2018 16:42:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639163#M997</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-06-26T16:42:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is it possible to use TensorFlow SSD-MobileNet on NCS?</title>
      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639164#M998</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@alex_z  hi can you please explain more or give some github repositories?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2018 15:46:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639164#M998</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-06-27T15:46:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is it possible to use TensorFlow SSD-MobileNet on NCS?</title>
      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639165#M999</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@WuXinyang Hi! Sorry for the delayed response. Download and install the last version of OpenVINO Toolkit (&lt;A href="https://software.intel.com/en-us/openvino-toolkit/choose-download"&gt;https://software.intel.com/en-us/openvino-toolkit/choose-download&lt;/A&gt;). Inside installation folder, you can find C++/Python examples and several pre-trained models. Windows and Linux are supported by the toolkit. The main idea is the same as Movidius SDK, you convert a trained model into Intermediate Representation format using Model Optimization then the Inference Engine reads, loads, and infers the Intermediate Representation on different devices such as CPU, Intel GPU, MYRIAD 2 VPU.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2018 22:38:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639165#M999</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-07-01T22:38:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is it possible to use TensorFlow SSD-MobileNet on NCS?</title>
      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639166#M1000</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@alex_z  Hi thanks for your reply! In fact I already successfully set up the OpenVINO SDK and used it to convert one trained object detection ssd model but I met some problems. Did you ever try any models on NCS with OpenVINO?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2018 22:58:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639166#M1000</guid>
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      <dc:date>2018-07-02T22:58:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is it possible to use TensorFlow SSD-MobileNet on NCS?</title>
      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639167#M1001</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@WuXinyang Yes, I have converted ssd_mobilenet_v1_coco model from Tensorflow detection model zoo and custom trained model based on SSD-Mobilenet v1 that I previously used with OpenCV DNN module. Then both models are run on NCS successfully.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2018 14:41:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639167#M1001</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-07-03T14:41:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is it possible to use TensorFlow SSD-MobileNet on NCS?</title>
      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639168#M1002</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@alex_z  OMG!! amazing! Do you mind if you can give some instructions on how to implement it? Maybe you can post them in your blog. I am sure that many many people desire to make tensorflow ssd model work on NCS!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2018 16:17:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639168#M1002</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-07-03T16:17:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is it possible to use TensorFlow SSD-MobileNet on NCS?</title>
      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639169#M1003</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@alex_z  I just set up the SDK and tried some sample applications. But I dont know how to compile the tensorflow model into their IR format. And after the convertion I guess I need to use some API in my code like:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;auto netBuilder = new InferenceEngine::CNNNetReader();&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;netBuilder-&amp;gt;ReadNetwork("Model.xml");&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;netBuilder-&amp;gt;ReadWeights("Model.bin");&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is my understanding, if it is right?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2018 16:34:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639169#M1003</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-07-03T16:34:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is it possible to use TensorFlow SSD-MobileNet on NCS?</title>
      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639170#M1004</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;PS. SSD MobileNet V2 is working on NCS via the OpenVINO SDK too.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2018 17:57:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639170#M1004</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-07-03T17:57:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is it possible to use TensorFlow SSD-MobileNet on NCS?</title>
      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639171#M1005</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@WuXinyang I am not good at C++. I use Python API. &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2018 18:14:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639171#M1005</guid>
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      <title>Re: Is it possible to use TensorFlow SSD-MobileNet on NCS?</title>
      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639172#M1006</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@alex_z &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;Hi the code I use to convert TF model is just like followings:&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;python3 mo_tf.py --input_model /home/wuxy/Downloads/ssd_mobilenet_v1_coc&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;o_2017_11_17/frozen_inference_graph.pb --output_dir ~/models_VINO&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and it returns some errors: [ ERROR ]  Graph contains a cycle. Can not proceed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt; Can you pls tell me how can I make it work?</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2018 18:17:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639172#M1006</guid>
      <dc:creator>idata</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-07-03T18:17:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is it possible to use TensorFlow SSD-MobileNet on NCS?</title>
      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639173#M1007</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@WuXinyang  Try the following:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;./mo_tf.py --input_model= --tensorflow_use_custom_operations_config extensions/front/tf/ssd_support.json --output="detection_boxes,detection_scores,num_detections"</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2018 18:25:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639173#M1007</guid>
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      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639174#M1008</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@alex_z  I found the solution now! Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2018 18:28:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639175#M1009</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@WuXinyang You are welcome.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2018 19:05:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Is it possible to use TensorFlow SSD-MobileNet on NCS?</title>
      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639176#M1010</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@alex_z  For usage on NCS, I need to add a flag in your code: --data_type FP16&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;since the MYRIAD plugin does not support FP32 and the converted models are FP32 by default.&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;Again thanks for your intuitions! I have been searching for long time to try to find way to make tensorflow object-detection model run on NCS!</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2018 19:16:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639177#M1011</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@WuXinyang Yes, you are right, I forgot to mention it.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2018 19:30:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <link>https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-Distribution-of-OpenVINO/Is-it-possible-to-use-TensorFlow-SSD-MobileNet-on-NCS/m-p/639178#M1012</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@alex_z Great to hear that it's possible to run TF object detection models on NCS. What kind of fps do you get with that or what is the inference time? For example with the ssd_mobilenet_v1_coco model.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2018 19:49:47 GMT</pubDate>
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