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Can F200 be supported on Robotic Development Kit?

kdaib — Sun, 07 May 2017 11:55:30 GMT

Hi everyone,

As published on Intel website, the Robotic could support RealSense R200. However, I only have F200. Is Robotic possible to support F200 ?

Re: Can F200 be supported on Robotic Development Kit?

MartyG — Sun, 07 May 2017 12:15:42 GMT

Sadly, the Robotic Development Kit and its 'Up Board' development mini-board requires an R200 because the board uses an Intel Atom Cherry Trail type processor, which the R200 supports but the F200 cannot work with.

Re: Can F200 be supported on Robotic Development Kit?

kdaib — Sun, 07 May 2017 13:35:44 GMT

Hi MartyG,

Thank for your answer. Is there anyway to work F200 without PC?

Re: Can F200 be supported on Robotic Development Kit?

MartyG — Sun, 07 May 2017 14:00:16 GMT

There is little chance of connecting an F200 without a PC, sadly, because most mini-boards are USB 2.0, and RealSense needs a USB 3.0 port. They also tend to use an ARM processor, or an Intel Atom in a few cases, instead of the Intel Core 4th generation or newer processor that the F200 prefers.

Re: Can F200 be supported on Robotic Development Kit?

Michael_M_Intel1 — Mon, 08 May 2017 05:35:45 GMT

Note that the question was about the UP Board, which is an x86 processor and can run Ubuntu (desktop Ubuntu 16.04, to be precise), not about generic SBCs. The UP Board also has a USB 3.0 port. I also looked up support for the F200 in librealsense and it is listed, as is the UP Board:

https://github.com/IntelRealSense/librealsense# compatible-devices GitHub - IntelRealSense/librealsense: Cross-platform camera capture for Intel® RealSense™ F200, SR300 and R200

However, what is *also* needed for this to work is a patch to the Linux kernel, specifically the uvc support. Aaeon, the makers of the UP Board, provide an updated kernel that definitely supports the R200 (which is included in the Robotic Development Kit) ,but I don't know if the same patch will support the F200. It is true the UP Board is a Cherry trail but it's not a slouch when it comes to performance, and it may be that the F200 may work at some settings and not others (for instance, it may be necessary to lower the frame rate). This might be enough to disqualify it from official support, but it might still be useful for development.

Anyhow, I'm not saying it's supported... but it's worth a try. I may be able to dig up an F200 at some point and try it.

Re: Can F200 be supported on Robotic Development Kit?

MartyG — Mon, 08 May 2017 07:44:02 GMT

I became aware recently of another Intel Atom Cherry Trail mini-board with USB 3.0 and Windows 10 pre-installed, called Lattepanda. Its Cherry Trail processor should still likely render it incompatible with the F200 camera, though it is a possible alternative to the Up Board for R200 users.

http://linuxgizmos.com/cherry-trail-hacker-board-is-a-windows-arduino-mashup/ http://linuxgizmos.com/cherry-trail-hacker-board-is-a-windows-arduino-mashup/

I say "should" be incompatible because I've been around long enough to know that as soon as you say something is impossible, some clever person will find a way to do the impossible and prove you wrong. Here on the forum, we always welcome hearing about the results of experiments.

Re: Can F200 be supported on Robotic Development Kit?

Michael_M_Intel1 — Mon, 08 May 2017 12:02:22 GMT

And don't forget the UDOO x86 and the UP Squared... both of which use more powerful Intel processors than the Cherry Trail.