topic Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran in Intel® Fortran Compiler

Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

akh123 — Wed, 28 Apr 2004 03:43:18 GMT

Hello all!

I've run into an itneresting issue. I've been trying to use the debugger that is part of the MS Visual C++ .NET 2003 Standard to debug Fortran code (Intel Fortran Compiler V8.0).

The trouble is, none of the variables I add to the watch list are ever recognized (they are reported as being undefined) I can view no arrays using the Array Visualizer, and the Command Window (in Immediate mode) doesn't understand any of the variables either.

What could be causing this? I read in the Forums here that the Intel Fortran compiler is completely supported by the VS.NET debugger.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-kirk

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

akh123 — Wed, 28 Apr 2004 04:31:35 GMT

Addendum

Awhile back I read about the need to configure the debugger for various operations. This problem wouldn't happen to be related to this, would it?

The only configurations I've been able to find for the debugger are for the target path, command line parameters, and working directory.

-kirk

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

Steven_L_Intel1 — Wed, 28 Apr 2004 06:34:58 GMT

No configuration should be needed. When you start VS.NET, does it show the Intel Fortran logo (F in a blue box) in the splash screen? In VS.NET, select Help..About, then Intel Fortran Compiler Integration. What version does it show?

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

wu_internet — Wed, 28 Apr 2004 20:06:49 GMT

I have the Intel Fortran logo (F in a blue box) in the splash screen displayed when open up the studio, I may be slightly lucky that I can do a little debug under visual studio 2002. I have a question with ID 8943 on this forum which I am trying to get some helpon debug aswell. My personal experience is:

1. The debug won't show the array with dimensions equal or more than 3.

2. Sometimes, thewatch windowtells you that the variable is not defined, but theyactually can produce correct result.

3.Sometimes it can beeven worse, the data show in the watch windows can show the wrong data.

4. If you are trying to set data breakpoint as it can be done in CVF6.5 under VS 6.0 (used to track the data change), it can be very difficult. I have not found a solution yet, I followed the document and no chance of success yet.

I hope someone who has some success experience on using the debug under IVF can share some good experience with everyone.

Regards,

David.

Message Edited by wu_internet on 04-28-2004 06:07 AM

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

akh123 — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 01:29:16 GMT

The logo does appear in the splash screen.
The following information is shown in the "Help. About" area.

Intel Fortran Compiler Integration for Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003, Version 8.0.1877.2003

This version is the free trial download version. Would this play a part in the issue?

-kirk

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

Steven_L_Intel1 — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:56:52 GMT

Please download and install the 8.0.047 kit. You get 30 days of full support for the trial. I'm not sure if you had to register with Premier Support to get the trial, but if not, follow the registration instructions in the e-mail you got that included a serial number.

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

akh123 — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:53:00 GMT

Steve,

I have just downloaded and installed the "47 kit" you told me about. I also installed the patch. Latest version listed by VS.NET now is:

Intel Fortran Compiler Integration for Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003 Standard, Version 8.0.2149.2003

However, I am still unable to do any debugging. All watched variables are still listed as undefined, etc. I did register with Premier and have posted over this issue with them as well.

-kirk

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

akh123 — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:58:35 GMT

It might be interesting to note, that when stepping through the code, there is a portion which is written in C (input output stuff for console applications under Windows. Standard operation.). In this section of the code, I CAN view the variables and arrays. It seems to be a Fortran only scenario

-kirk

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

Steven_L_Intel1 — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:07:37 GMT

Please continue this with Premier Support. I'm sorry to hear you're having troubles, and I hope they're resolved soon.

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

akh123 — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:24:54 GMT

Just out of curiosity, is anyone else having this issue?

-kirk

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

relax — Tue, 04 May 2004 09:57:42 GMT

Exactly! I have the almost same problem with debugger. I am running visual studio.net 2002, IVF Pro 8.0 (w_fcp_p_8.0.048 kit) and Win XP. The variables in the watch list is said "undifined" while the program can run very well. There was no this problem with my C++ programs.

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

jbalster — Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:15:31 GMT

I just hate trying to look up a problem and instead of finding a solution, find such as message as "Continue with Premier Support". That does NOT help the rest of us who are having the same problem and are trying to decide whether we have to purchase many copies of a newer version of CVF or if we have to purchase many copies of IVF (Intel) or maybe neither, and have to purchase many copies of yet another brand of Fortran to solve this problem.

Now I (we) have been using Visual Studio 6.0 with CVF 6.1 for many years just fine. We recently spent about 2 months converting our projects to Visual Studio .NET 2003 and thru extensive use of CUSTOM BUILD rules and many .BAT files (since there's now a size limit on custom build rules) have successfully gotten our massive set of code to run properly under .NET 2003. We were just starting to turn this conversion effort over to our developers as their new develoment platform, when we got slapped in the face with the debugger not being able to locate the symbols for any FORTRAN variable that was declared as an ARRAY. Other variables (anything but an ARRAY) is just fine with the debugger.

Well, after pulling out a lot of hair and doing many web searches with Google, MSDN, as well as on the HP, Compaq, Intel web sites and bulletin boards we have seen that several others (but NOT a huge number) have been having the same problem, but no-one is offering any definitive solution. Compaq/HP has passed the buck to Intel, saying that Intel is the only ones with full integration, but now that I am here, I find the same problem being reported with the Intel IVF.

Now I have ordered 1 copy of IVF for a test platform, but at this time I am still awaiting it's arrival. If I am able to solve this problem, we will be needing a few dozen copies of whatever FORTRAN that we find can solve our problem. In the meantime, I am still trying to learn more about this problem and whether or not any solution exists.

Also, our management has ordered us to return to using Visual Studio 6.0 until such time as we are able to get a debugger for FORTRAN which works with the Visual Studio .NET 2003.

Some of my research seems to indicate that the installation of (either DVF or CVF) FORTRAN under Visual Studio 6.0 effective installed a plug-in of some sort into the Debugger. I have also found many similarities in the some of the configuration files for the 2 Debuggers, for example

    C:Program FilesMicrosoft Visual StudioCommonMSDev98BinAUTOEXP.DAT
    C:Program FilesMicrosoft Visual Studio .NET 2003Common7PackagesDebuggerAUTOEXP.DAT

appear to use the same syntax and except for a few minor additions of new types are identical. This leads me to believe that there the core debugger may be quite similar between the 2 versions, although I was unable to find any information to directly support this. It also leads me to believe that under version 6.0, the Debugger had been "TAUGHT" how to read the FORTRAN ARRAY symbols information thru some sort of plug-in.

Now IF the Visual Studio .NET 2003 Debugger fail ed for everyone, then I would also expect much more outcry from the user community, but I have not seen that. Is there an installation issue? Is there some order of installation and/or some set of options which can be chosen during installation whereby the Visual Studio .NET 2003 Debugger can also be "TAUGHT" how to understand FORTRAN (IVF inyour case)????

--- Jim B

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

Steven_L_Intel1 — Thu, 16 Sep 2004 02:10:01 GMT

The debugger interface for the "plug in" is very different - the way the Fortran "expression evaluator" is called is very different between the two versions.

There is not a universal solution for the problem some people are seeing. This is why we urge you to contact Intel Premier Support if you have problems with the Intel product.

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

williamrrichmond — Thu, 16 Sep 2004 03:00:47 GMT

Yes, I've also had similar problems and Intel Premier Support has confirmed that it is a problem - at least for the scenario that I submitted. Intel Premier support said, "Ihave found out that there was already a defect with IDE showing the incorrect values of module variables. I am going to add this issue into the affected list for the defect."

If you want to reproduce the problem I've attached a small project that will demonstrate the problem in the debugger.

Please see the attached zip file - console2.zip

It contains the file

Console2.vfproj
The main project file for Console2

Console2.f90
This is the main source file for the Fortran Console application. It contains the program entry point.

global.f90 - global module containing global declarations used through the program

mod1.f90 - module containing type declarations

sub1.f90 - subroutine to read in some data - uses a contained subroutine readinfo

You can't access the variable grp03 (a variable using a defined structure) in the debugger even though the program successfully reads, and then writes out the information in the structure. As well, even within console2.f90, you can't see the grp03 variable even though it's in scope.

To provide debugging support for the programming work I'm doing, I've resorted to using CVF Version 6.1 while Intel works on the problem.

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

Jugoslav_Dujic — Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:37:32 GMT

I think this is broken altogether; on my system with 8.1, grp03 is accessible in watch window, but it displays plain wrong results (which is equal to unusable).

Similar bug(s)is/are reported here and here as well.

In general, I notice a general problem with array descriptors. In Visual Fortran, an allocatable or pointer array is "two-fold": there's so-called array descriptor, which is a 28-byte structure describing array's starting address, allocation status, stride, extents etc, and there are the contents of the "target" itself. With scalar pointers, there's also a 4-byte "pointer descriptor" (containing only target's address)and the address of the "target" itself.

Normally, the programmer does not (and should not) know/care about the descriptor itself (you could reach it through "memory" window). However, thereare (related?) bugs all over the place -- the debugger frequently maps the memory contents of the descriptor instead of memory contents of the target. The compiler itself also has some problems in the area (passing pointer-valued expression as an actual argument is still broken, LOC() returns wrong address here and there). Also, I submitted few bug reports, some fixed, some not (245385 Steve... please...)

Lemme checkyour particular case... yes. When I type "grp03, x" in the Watch window, I see that grp03%lenf contains hex sequence "00582E30". In Debug->Memory window, when I type 00582E30, I see the real contents of grp03 array, but it's not very useful to watch them as hex bytes.

I think thisis really closeto the category of "showstoppers", and yet it remains buggy in each release.

Jugoslav

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

Steven_L_Intel1 — Thu, 16 Sep 2004 19:34:30 GMT

Would those of you who have reported the problem please provide me with the six-digit case number? Thanks.

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

relax — Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:45:18 GMT

The number of mine is 243314. The status is Reproduced (Escalated) since three months ago. I had uploaded a simple program to show the problems with this issue.

To me, CVF's debugger is much stronger and can recognize most variables while IVF's debugger seems to work only with the variables defined locally. I have some modules, which also contains subroutines, used in the program. IVF's debugger almost no use for the program. I have to use the old CVF to debug it. Also, I do find the cases that even CVF's debugger can't recognize the variables, quite seldom though.

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

Steven_L_Intel1 — Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:12:47 GMT

Thanks for the info - I will see if I can get some movement on the issue.

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

jeanvezina — Fri, 17 Sep 2004 04:45:30 GMT

I have also submitted a similar problem sometimes ago under the

issuenumber Q217865: Impossible to view a structure component that is a pointer in debugger

Best regards,

Jean Vezina

Re: Visual Studio .NET Debugger not working with Intel Fortran

williamrrichmond — Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:31:29 GMT

Steve:

The number for my issue was 263998 .

Bill