topic Re: Intel HD 4k, pixel clock limited by Samsung? in Graphics

Intel HD 4k, pixel clock limited by Samsung?

BSjoe — Wed, 26 Jun 2013 17:24:32 GMT

I have a problem that i didn't think I would encounter. My last laptop was an Asus ux51vz with Intel HD 4000/Nvidia GT 650m), managed to squeeze out 100hz in 1080p.

Now, with my new Samsung Chronos 7 770z5e (Intel HD 4000/Radeon 8870m) I can't get it to work even though I use the exact same cables and monitor as before. HDMI -> DVI-D adapter -> DVI-D cable -> Acer 120hz capable monitor. What could be wrong here?

I have tried to contact Samsung about it but they have no answers at all... You guys are my last hope. Is there any way to increase the pixel clock if that turns out to be the bottleneck?

I want to try to add a custom resolution using Intel Control Panel's advanced settings, but I dont know what values I should add to get 100hz @ 1080p.

I need values like sync width, active, light time, shutdown time, sync polarity, scanning freq, total. Any suggestions?

Any thoughts in general?

Some more information: Tried every third program like Powerstrip etc to fix this output issue, the second I touch the arrow to change pixel clock the screen goes light blue until I plug out the cable. (Not BSOD, just no picture).

Thank you in advance,

BillSjo

Re: Intel HD 4k, pixel clock limited by Samsung?

DArce — Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:12:24 GMT

Please provide the model and manufacturer of the TV that you are using.

In addition, could you please post the graphics report generated in Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator control panel as explained here:

http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/cs-009476.htm Graphics — Intel� Graphics Driver Report

In addition, copy paste the dxdiag report generated in that system.

Re: Intel HD 4k, pixel clock limited by Samsung?

BSjoe — Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:49:18 GMT

Monitor: Acer GD245HQ

DxDiag:

System Information

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Time of this report: 6/28/2013, 14:44:33

Operating System: Windows 8 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200) (9200.win8_gdr.130410-1505)

Language: Swedish (Regional Setting: Swedish)

System Manufacturer: SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD.

System Model: 770Z5E/780Z5E

BIOS: P04ABU.140.130604.SK

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3635QM CPU @ 2.40GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.4GHz

Memory: 8192MB RAM

Available OS Memory: 8076MB RAM

Page File: 5595MB used, 10673MB available

Windows Dir: C:\windows

DirectX Version: DirectX 11

DX Setup Parameters: Not found

User DPI Setting: Using System DPI

System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)

DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled

DxDiag Version: 6.02.9200.16384 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes

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Display Tab 1: The file igdumd64.dll,igd10umd64.dll,igd10umd64.dll,igdumd32,igd10umd32,igd10umd32 is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.

Sound Tab 1: No problems found.

Sound Tab 2: No problems found.

Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels

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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)

DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)

DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)

DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)

DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)

DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)

DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices

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Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics

Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.

Chip type: Intel(R) HD Graphics Family

DAC type: Internal

Device Type: Full Device

Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0166&SUBSYS_C0E6144D&REV_09

Display Memory: 5844 MB

Dedicated Memory: 2062 MB

Shared Memory: 3782 MB

Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)

Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor

Monitor Model: Acer GD245HQ

Monitor Id: ACR0125

Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)

Output Type: HDMI

Driver Name: igdumd64.dll,igd10umd64.dll,igd10umd64.dll,igdumd32,igd10umd32,igd10umd32

Driver File Version: 9.17.0010.3190 (English)

Driver Version: 9.17.10.3190

DDI Version: 11

Feature Levels: 11.0,10.1,10.0,9.3,9.2,9.1

Driver Model: WDDM 1.2

Graphics Preemption: DMA

Compute Preemption: Thread group

Driver Attributes: Final Retail

Driver Date/Size: 5/20/2013 20:20:18, 12615680 bytes

WHQL Logo'd: No

WHQL Date Stamp: None

Device Identifier: {D7B78E66-4226-11CF-4673-ECE0B7C2C535}

Vendor ID: 0x8086

Device ID: 0x0166

SubSys ID: 0xC0E6144D

Revision ID: 0x0009

Driver Strong Name: oem12.inf:cb0ae414c4a533dd:iIVBM1ML_PROXY:9.17.10.3190:pci\ven_8086&dev_0166

Rank Of Driver: 00E02001

Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeWMV9_C ModeVC1_C

DXVA2 Modes: DXVA2_ModeMPEG2_VLD DXVA2_ModeMPEG2_IDCT DXVA2_ModeWMV9_IDCT DXVA2_ModeVC1_IDCT DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_NoFGT

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Re: Intel HD 4k, pixel clock limited by Samsung?

DArce — Fri, 28 Jun 2013 21:17:59 GMT

Have you tried using a direct HDMI cable connection?

Have you tried loading the latest drivers from Acer for this monitor?

http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/drivers http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/drivers

In addition, check with Samsung for an updated BIOS for the system that you are using.

Re: Intel HD 4k, pixel clock limited by Samsung?

BSjoe — Sun, 30 Jun 2013 21:08:56 GMT

Yes, I have tried those things. My humble opinion is that my intel hd 4k must be a limited version. Can you confirm that? My last intel hd 4k in an Asus Zenbook could force 100hz in 1080p, this one cant do over 60hz.

It there a way to get by this? How likely is my theory?

Best,

Bill Sjoe

Re: Intel HD 4k, pixel clock limited by Samsung?

DArce — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 17:35:39 GMT

Just to confirm the TV is 120 hz capable, so you are trying to set it to 1080 @ 120 hz or 1080 @ 100hz?

Are you getting the 1080 @120 hz, or the highest it shows is 60 hz?

Re: Intel HD 4k, pixel clock limited by Samsung?

BSjoe — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:38:08 GMT

The monitor is capable of 1080p @ 120hz, used it many times with those settings. My last Asus Zenbook with the HD 4000 could squeeze out 1080p @ 100hz with an adapter from HDMI to DVI-D. When I'm trying the exact same setup now with my Samsung 770z5e it doesn't seem to work.

Im trying to use something like 100-120hz in 1080p, dont rellat matter as long as I can get a bit above 60hz like I'm used to.

Another strange thing, I can push this HD 4000 to 120hz in 1024*768, so I guess this is not a question of a 60hz limit, but a limitet pixel clock in my version.

So, are there any possible limitations that Samsung (or you) could have implemented in my chipset? Is there a way to get past this? Can you imagine any reason why my HD 4000 could do 100hz before but not now?

Re: Intel HD 4k, pixel clock limited by Samsung?

DArce — Tue, 02 Jul 2013 17:28:56 GMT

Could you please attach a screenshot where you see 120hz in 1024*768?

In addition, checking the specifications of the TV and the laptop, both of them should feature a HDMI port, in such case, have you tested using a directly HDMI connection?

Re: Intel HD 4k, pixel clock limited by Samsung?

BSjoe — Tue, 02 Jul 2013 17:56:36 GMT

Here is me running at 120hz in 1024*768

I have tried HDMI, it doesn't get me further than this HDMI to DVI-D cable im on right now.

I know that my cable can transfer 1080p @ 100hz, so i don't think the problem is with the connection rather than some chipset or driver limitation. Any thoughts?

I created a custom resolution to be able to select this.

Re: Intel HD 4k, pixel clock limited by Samsung?

DArce — Wed, 03 Jul 2013 17:33:49 GMT

So, you created a custom resolution to be able to select 120hz in 1024*768?

Re: Intel HD 4k, pixel clock limited by Samsung?

BSjoe — Wed, 03 Jul 2013 18:02:52 GMT

Yes, but it won't work for 1080p @ 100hz. I have used the very same monitor and cables for 1080p 100hz for over two years. Then with a Optimus configuration GT 650M/HD 4000.

What do you advice me to do? Any tool/software that might come in handy?

Re: Intel HD 4k, pixel clock limited by Samsung?

DArce — Wed, 03 Jul 2013 19:00:45 GMT

Could you please test using our latest generic driver posted here?

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=22842&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%208%2C%2064-bit*&DownloadType=Drivers https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=22842&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%208%2C%2064-bit*&DownloadType=Drivers

And also try the previous version posted here:

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=22605&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%208%2C%2064-bit*&DownloadType=Drivers https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=22605&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%208%2C%2064-bit*&DownloadType=Drivers

Then check if there is any change on this, please.

Re: Intel HD 4k, pixel clock limited by Samsung?

BSjoe — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 04:20:05 GMT

Nope, no driver seemed to fix the problem. Any suggestions?

Re: Intel HD 4k, pixel clock limited by Samsung?

DArce — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 17:57:42 GMT

Let me further investigate on this and get back to you as soon as possible

Re: Intel HD 4k, pixel clock limited by Samsung?

DArce — Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:17:49 GMT

I was trying to check for the provided model number GD245HQ. However it is not on Acer's website. Is it possible the GN245HQ?

Could you please specify if you are running the TV in standard mode, or in 3D mode?