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Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

idata — Thu, 09 Jun 2016 00:43:43 GMT

Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip without stuttering? http://demo-uhd3d.com/fiche.php?cat=uhd&id=42 http://demo-uhd3d.com/fiche.php?cat=uhd&id=42 you can download the clip by clicking download

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

idata — Thu, 09 Jun 2016 15:52:18 GMT

Hello Klas,

In order to further assist you with your inquiry, we need to get the configuration information of the PC that you are using.

So, please install the SSU tool (System Support Utility), so I can get that information.

You will be able to download it on the following link:

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/25293/Intel-System-Support-Utility https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/25293/Intel-System-Support-Utility

Once you do that, the tool will allow you to save the information as a file, so, once you save it, please attach it to this thread.

Alberto

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

idata — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:16:01 GMT

I just want to know if ANYONE can play this clip, it`s a HEVC 2160p50 clip and my gen4 4600 graphic can not play it without stuttering in full res on the 4k Dell UP3214Q monitor, can someone play it perfectly with gen6 graphic???

Processor model is Intel Core i7-4790K, motherboard is ASUS SABERTOOTH Z87

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

CCris2 — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:38:20 GMT

Hi KlasBell ,

On my I7 6700k that video is very smooth. I don't have a 4k monitor but on my monitor is ok.Try to use this video player: http://www.videohelp.com/software/PotPlayer PotPlayer 1.6.60136 / 1.6.61097 Beta - Download

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

idata — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:34:33 GMT

Thanks for trying but you need a 4k monitor, I can play the clip fine with the best player MPC-HC with the monitor set to 1920x1080, but at 3840x2160 it starts stuttering, the higher res on the monitor the more stutter, like it dont enough have power to render full frames per second

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

CCris2 — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 18:05:53 GMT

I don't know how well optimized is MPC-HC to use hardware decoding. Pot Player uses only 4-5% CPU in H/W mode when playing that video.

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

idata — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 18:23:56 GMT

To me Pot Player uses 100% CPU when playing the clip in standard settings, are there any settings I need to change?

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

idata — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 19:44:36 GMT

Hello Klas:

I will try to gather all the components available in our lab, to try to build a PC similar as the one you have, with the same type of graphics version of your processor which is: Intel® HD Graphics 4600 and also a 4K monitor.

I will play the video and once I do that, I will update the thread with the results.

Also, I will try to download the Pot Player to let you know about the settings.

Alberto

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

CCris2 — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 19:45:45 GMT

You should have on the left of controls a S/W. if you click on it it goes on hardware mode, if your cpu has hardware decoder for that movie.

To activate DXVA hardware acceleration go to preferences // Filter Control // Video Decoder // Built in Codec/DXVA Settings. Enable DXVA and on all codecs set VLD, and on DXVA2 Copy Back: Disable

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

idata — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 22:06:49 GMT

I did all the new setting and CPU usage did go down to 20-25% but the clip is still stuttering, MPC-HC works a little better but only slightly

Alberto!

Can you try both Pot Player and MPC-HC player!

https://nightly.mpc-hc.org/ MPC-HC Nightly Builds

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

CCris2 — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 22:41:57 GMT

For me they are working both the same 4-5% CPU usage, only that on HPC-HC if I jump forward or backward the image locks and goes out of sync ...

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

idata — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 00:53:56 GMT

frame rate should improve if you change this MPC player setting. options/playback/output/ then change directshow video to "overlay mixer renderer"

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

CCris2 — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 06:43:15 GMT

I don't have problems with framerate. Problems is when I move with mouse on time frame, back and forward.

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

idata — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:20:48 GMT

Hello Klas:

Sure, I will try to play the video using both Pot Player and MPC-HC Player, as soon as I do that, I will update the thread with the results.

Alberto

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

idata — Sun, 19 Jun 2016 09:26:21 GMT

Ronin!

what is the highest resolution your monitor can do? if you had a 4k monitor you would probably been able to play the clip without stutter I assume, your graphic is more powerful then mine 4600

Alberto!

Try changeing the settings in MPC-HC as described above

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

CCris2 — Sun, 19 Jun 2016 10:01:31 GMT

I don't have any stuttering and the movie is playing in overscan mode, that means that player resolution is in 4k, but reduced by the renderer to fit on the screen. The problem is with the time bar. When I jump on the time bar to from 0:10 min to 0:30 it takes like 10 second to resume play, This is not happening in PotPlayer.

Overlay works the same as overlay enhanced renderer. And with the last intel driver MPC-HC, doesn't know to use hardware codec, it goes all on processor and occupies like 30-60% all the time ...

I don't like MPC-HC because it is to complicated to set up codecs to work with it.

PotPlayer works out of the box with any codec you want and is easy to configure.

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

CCris2 — Sun, 19 Jun 2016 20:00:27 GMT

How is this video playing to you ? https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2lkW9dKrrb0RFM1bmRyeFhZUkk/view?pref=2&pli=1 Sony_4K_HDR_Camp.mp4 - Google Drive

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

NNiko6 — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 07:31:08 GMT

@all

Skylake has full hardware fixed-function HEVC 8bit decoding capability, allowing the processor to off-load the whole decoding process to that specific HW inside its GPU.

Video Players like MPC-HC and PotPlayer can certainly utilize this piece of HW in order to achieve very low CPU usage while decoding 4K HEVC 8bit with ease.

Older processors from Intel like Haswell support HEVC 8bit hybrid decoding, which means they use a portion of that fixed-function HW along with CPU.

The result is - as you can clearly see - insufficient in most of the 4K HEVC 8bit clips.

Note that for 10bit HEVC clips, even Skylake supports hybrid decoding and it's exactly the same case like Haswell for HEVC 8bit clips

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

idata — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 22:15:34 GMT

the https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2lkW9dKrrb0RFM1bmRyeFhZUkk/view%3Fpref%3D2%26pli%3D1 Sony_4K_HDR_Camp clip stutters on both players, is this a 60fps clip?

Re: Can anyone play this 4k ultra hd 2160p50 clip

CCris2 — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 23:54:42 GMT

Yes is 60fps 10bit, and on my pc works ok, only that on PotPlayer occupies less CPU.