topic Re: Massive daily incremental backups in Intel® Optane™ Memory

Massive daily incremental backups

Steve77 — Sun, 08 Nov 2020 17:52:04 GMT

I’m looking for a backup strategy similar to Time Machine (Mac) that will allow me to fully restore a PC that has 16GB of active Optane Memory. Currently using AOMEI Backupper (Free), I started with a full image backup of the three internal drives. I have the program set to do daily incremental backups. The problem is that each daily backup is a minimum of 30GB—even if the PC was in sleep mode for the entire day. (FYI: Backupper treats the Optane + main HDD drive as a single SSD.) When exploring the compressed incrementals, I can’t see anything that would account for these huge daily backups. Even assuming that the 16GB Optane is completely overwritten, that shouldn’t account for more than half the backup size.
1. Any idea what’s causing these huge incrementals?
2. Is there a better backup strategy for my intent of doing a full system restore in case of a catastrophic failure that will also allow me to restore individual changed files? (I dislike the idea of just doing a full system image once a month with RST disabled, for example.)

Re: Massive daily incremental backups

AlHill — Sun, 08 Nov 2020 18:00:59 GMT

Use a different backup program.

I use Macrium Reflect, but there are others available.

Re: Massive daily incremental backups

Steve77 — Sun, 08 Nov 2020 18:08:26 GMT

Are you using Macrium Reflect with Optane enabled? Are you getting reasonable sized incremental backups? How frequently are your scheduled backups occurring? Finally, which paid version are you using? (The free version doesn’t support incremental backups.)

Thanks for your quick response.

Re: Massive daily incremental backups

JosafathB_Intel — Mon, 09 Nov 2020 18:42:29 GMT

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Re: Massive daily incremental backups

Steve77 — Mon, 09 Nov 2020 19:14:52 GMT

The issue is a general one concerning backing up PCs that have Optane. I’m not convinced that the specific backup application is the issue. That was another user’s take on this.
1. Do Optane contents change so frequently and dramatically—even when the system has been asleep for the entire period—that the result is massive 30GB incremental backups? Is this reasonable?
2. What are the best backup strategies for PCs with Optane?

Also, who is Fenhi?

Re: Massive daily incremental backups

AlHill — Mon, 09 Nov 2020 19:21:15 GMT

" I’m not convinced that the specific backup application is the issue. " That other user was me, and I have lots of experience backing up an Optane system.

Try a different program and remove that issue as a variable.

Re: Massive daily incremental backups

Steve77 — Mon, 09 Nov 2020 20:14:19 GMT

Well, is it typical in your experience to have massive (30GB) incremental daily system backups? Have you gotten reasonable sized backups with other programs? (Not looking for a recommendation... just whether it’s possible.) For all I know, 30GB IS typical. I have no idea how much optane is rewritten or Windows 10 system files change per day.
Do you think incremental daily system backups is a good, practical plan or a bad idea?
Given that you have lots of experience backing up an optane-equipped system, it’d be really appreciated if you could offer some details. Thanks.

Re: Massive daily incremental backups

AlHill — Mon, 09 Nov 2020 20:18:47 GMT

"Well, is it typical in your experience to have massive (30GB) incremental daily system backups? " No, that is why I said try another backup program to eliminate that as a variable.

Re: Massive daily incremental backups

Steve77 — Mon, 09 Nov 2020 21:18:48 GMT

Thank you. That was the clarification I was looking for.

Re: Massive daily incremental backups

AlHill — Mon, 09 Nov 2020 21:30:52 GMT

Clarification? Well, it all depends on usage, does it not? I do not understand your reluctance to try another backup program, so you will have another data point. If cost is the issue, Macrium, for example, is also free.