topic Re: Are all 13th gen cpu affected? in Mobile and Desktop Processors

Are all 13th gen cpu affected?

AndersB — Wed, 24 Jul 2024 17:20:47 GMT

The recent problems with 13th and 14th gen Intel cpus, are all of the models affected?

I have an I5 13400.

But I've read that certain revision and S-Spec are (so far) unaffected.

The revision on my cpu is C0, the S-Spec is SRMBP. I've been told that those are ok as they're based more on 12th gen. Those with B0 revision, SRMBF s-spec are bad ones.

Note I've disabled that bios setting which gave more power than what was over the Intel's own safe specifications.

I haven't encountered any stability issues yet.

Re: Are all 13th gen cpu affected?

pressed_for_time — Wed, 24 Jul 2024 18:07:56 GMT

Only the K models of 13th and 14th gen are affected - i5, i7 and i9. Your CPU is not affected. The BIOS update due in August should fix the issue for the K processors.

Re: Are all 13th gen cpu affected?

Dan0987 — Sat, 27 Jul 2024 01:11:49 GMT

Intel Core 13th and 14th Generation desktop processors with 65W or higher base power – including K/KF/KS and 65W non-K variants – could be affected by the elevated voltages issue. However, this does not mean that all processors listed are (or will be) impacted by the elevated voltages issue. - Intel spokesperson Thomas Hannaford

source: https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a

Re: Are all 13th gen cpu affected?

CoolBook — Sat, 27 Jul 2024 03:56:42 GMT

Hi @AndersB

Easiest would be to check. Use HWinfo or similar program and you should be able to see your highest VID.

Re: Are all 13th gen cpu affected?

pressed_for_time — Sat, 27 Jul 2024 07:05:37 GMT

Some internet sources including The Verge in that nonsense article of theirs are attempting to claim that the issue affects more CPUs than Intel says it does. I have not seen the phrase 'and 65W non-K variants' used by Thomas Hannaford. I have seen a statement that only the K/KF/KS variants are affected. It is evident that Raptor Lake by definition means 14600K upwards. There are some non-K variants in this group including 13700/F/T and 13900/F/T and 14700/F/T and 14900/F/T. And there is a 14600/T. The T models are 35W TDP so it is unlikely they would be affected by this issue in any case. They are also a chip that is not normally available through retail channels.

So as far as I can see this is a limited issue. I own one of the affected processors and I have not had any stability problem. Any Intel CPU owner is able to access support if they need it, there is a RMA procedure and Intel has made a clarifying statement on where to make a RMA claim if you need to.

Intel have never publicly said how many Raptor Lake CPUs they have sold. It will obviously run into the ten of millions, maybe over hundred million. Given the sheer size of the user base if there really was a widespread issue it would be very obvious by now and it isn't. No amount of distortion and downright mistruths by internet sources will change this.

Re: Are all 13th gen cpu affected?

Dan0987 — Sat, 27 Jul 2024 11:00:42 GMT

@pressed_for_time wrote:
Some internet sources including The Verge in that nonsense article of theirs are attempting to claim that the issue affects more CPUs than Intel says it does [...]

Since you are suggesting that The Verge lied, that the email Q&A never happened, or that Mr Hannaford's answers were manipulated, some sort of proof would be appropriate, if you want to be taken seriously.

Re: Are all 13th gen cpu affected?

MikeFreeze — Sat, 27 Jul 2024 11:36:40 GMT

Reports state that any damage already done will be irreparable. Intel will have to do a recall to fix the damaged cpus that have already been running with the affected micro-code. I just bought an i7-14700k a couple months back and it’s crashing almost daily. Not an ok result when you spend over $400 on a cpu and your entire job/livelihood revolves around your computer.

Re: Are all 13th gen cpu affected?

Osito1 — Sun, 21 Dec 2025 01:17:10 GMT

The issues still remain my 13900k was replaced by Intel and the issues stopped and now about 8 months later the issues started up again.