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Issues with i7 13700K

Redog_Modi — Tue, 13 Aug 2024 09:44:00 GMT

Issue Summary: When running the program Maya on my system, the temperature of 2 specific P-cores rises rapidly, leading to slowdowns or freezes

Operating System: Windows 10 Pro 22H2, OS Build 19045.4651
CPU: 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-13700K 3.40 GHz
CPU Cooler: MasterLiquid 360 Atmos
GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3080
Motherboard: ASUS Z690-P
RAM: Samsung 2x32

I have not applied any overclocking or other modifications to my CPU

Part I find most confusing is that thermal throttling occurs during all tasks even though the temperature only reaches 70 degrees

When working with Maya, especially while using X-Gen, temperature of the 4th and 5th P-cores rises rapidly while other P-cores and E-cores maintain normal temperatures. This causes the computer to slow down or freeze

The issue isn't limited to heavy tasks like working in Maya, even when I'm just watching YouTube, temperature of the 4th and 5th P-cores rises rapidly, causing the computer to slow down. I want to understand why this is happening and how to resolve it.

I really can't understand why thermal throttling only occurs on specific cores

Re: Issues with i7 13700K

VARADHARAJAN — Thu, 15 Aug 2024 08:06:11 GMT

Your processor has stability issues and oxidation issues.

1) Intel announced warranty extensions for an additional two years, you can replacement or else

2) Update the latest bios firmware with intel-microcode 0x129, and enable the intel default profile.

Re: Issues with i7 13700K

WrongedByCS — Thu, 15 Aug 2024 13:53:51 GMT

13000 / 14000 is pretty much 80% borked. Your one of them , RMA it , the process will be painful and slow.

Re: Issues with i7 13700K

CoolBook — Thu, 15 Aug 2024 17:19:40 GMT

Do you see that the computer is actually temperature throttling?

Re: Issues with i7 13700K

CoolBook — Thu, 15 Aug 2024 17:21:56 GMT

@WrongedByCS

How did you come up with that crazy idea?

Re: Issues with i7 13700K

CoolBook — Thu, 15 Aug 2024 17:22:39 GMT

@VARADHARAJAN

Oxidation?

Please explain your theory.

Re: Issues with i7 13700K

VARADHARAJAN — Thu, 15 Aug 2024 17:35:41 GMT

I am not using 13700K, I read in article, few 13 and 14 caused oxidation issues

Here is the article

Intel Addresses Desktop Raptor Lake Instability Issues: Faults Excessive Voltage from Microcode, Fix Coming in August (anandtech.com)

There is no fix for Intel’s crashing 13th and 14th Gen CPUs — any damage is permanent - The Verge

Intel finally announces a solution for CPU crashing and instability problems — claims elevated voltages are the root cause; patch coming by mid-August [Updated] | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com)

Intel CPU crashes: what you need to know—Intel explains the problem as a fix rolls out for 13th and 14th Gen motherboards | PC Gamer

Re: Issues with i7 13700K

CoolBook — Thu, 15 Aug 2024 18:21:32 GMT

You are just spreading misinformation.

Please stop!

Re: Issues with i7 13700K

WrongedByCS — Thu, 15 Aug 2024 18:34:55 GMT

Oh look it's coolbook, the person that tries to avoid anyone from RMAing their defectious product. Thread after thread.

Re: Issues with i7 13700K

WrongedByCS — Thu, 15 Aug 2024 18:35:44 GMT

So are you , persistently so , trying to avoid users from getting the support Intel recommends.

Are you an investor in Intel ? Are these RMA's directly affecting you?

Re: Issues with i7 13700K

CoolBook — Fri, 16 Aug 2024 15:56:42 GMT

Please explain how via oxidation causes that issue?
What is the defect requiring RMA?

Re: Issues with i7 13700K

CoolBook — Fri, 16 Aug 2024 15:57:34 GMT

Why are you spreading lies? Do you think that is helping anyone?

Re: Issues with i7 13700K

SmartOne_2000 — Fri, 16 Aug 2024 17:26:26 GMT

I think its the overall package temperature that counts, no? Core to Core temp variations tat occur on a millisecond (or less) basis do not cause issues. Its the prolonged package temp that one must watch out for and cool as much as possible.

Re: Issues with i7 13700K

CoolBook — Fri, 16 Aug 2024 17:58:27 GMT

The main issue seems to be that the CPU is not actually working at normal performance.

It is getting held back for some reason.

The OP claims thermal throttling, which seems strange.

There are many performance limiting reasons: