Re: How to 32bit DDR2 in CycloneIII development kit?

Altera_Forum · ‎09-24-2009

Hi,

I just got my Cyclone III development kit. However, it seems

the examples does not have all features demonstrated.

In all examples, only one DDR2 chip (16bit) is accessed even there

are at least 2 chips (32bit on DDR2_Bottom, 40bit on DDR2_Top).

I am trying to modify the standard example to use 32 bit(2 chips) access.

I modified the memory interface DQ width from 16 to 32. However

the compiler generates some strange error:

>>Error: On-chip termination Control Block "termination_blk0" driven by Rup or Rdn pin "termination_blk0~_rup_pad" with non-matching side location constraints for the output or bidir pins driven by the block

My questions are:

1. Is it the right approach (changing DQ with in DDR2 controller) to

enable 32bits access?

2. How can I fix the error? what does the error message mean?

3. Is there any CycloneIII development kit reference design that already accesses

DDR2 (either top or bottom) with 32 bit DQ width?

Thanks,

GL888

Altera_Forum · ‎09-24-2009

Hi,

I did more test trying to use the other memory chips

not used in reference design (for example, U25A in DDR2_BOTTOM).

I switched DQ width back to 16 and make the following pin assignment modifications.

mem_dm[1..0] <= ddr_dm[3..2]

mem_dq[15..0] <= ddr_dq[31..16]

mem_dqs[1..0] <= ddr_dqs[3..2]

The same error (shown in earlier message) will show up.

Once I switched back to the original chip (U26A) by assigning

mem_dm[1..0] <= ddr_dm[1..0]

mem_dq[15..0] <= ddr_dq[15..0]

mem_dqs[1..0] <= ddr_dqs[1..0],

then every is fine.

What is problem when memory chip U25A is used?

Thanks,

gl888

Altera_Forum · ‎09-24-2009

After regenerating in SOPC Builder with a wider data width make sure to run the DDR SDRAM pin assignments .tcl file. The example designs in their current state would only have x16 interfaces constrained and not the extra pins you are adding.

Altera_Forum · ‎09-25-2009

I think that the niosii3c120 design example on the nios wiki (http://www.nioswiki.com/exampledesigns/niosii3c120designexample) uses all the DDR chips. You should have a look at it.

Altera_Forum · ‎09-25-2009

Hi,

After reading your reply, I found there is some inconsistent

pin settings for dq[15..0] and dq[31..16]. The issue is fixed.

Thanks,

GL888