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How to connect these DQS pairs when there is a mismatch?

We are using 5AGXMB1G4F40C5G with 48 bit(x16 - 4 Nos) DDR3L memory interface and 8/6 bit ECC. We planned to use DDR3 controller in Soft IP. There are only 5 DQS pairs are available in pinout but DDR3 memory needs 8 DQS pairs. How to connect these DQS pairs?

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New Contributor III
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Are you using Quartus to help determine your pinout?

 

If you've run out of pins then I suspect you're trying a DDR3 configuration that the FPGA won't support. There are frequently extra pins, that can be used for data or dqs signals, to offer extra flexibility in your pinout.

 

Put a Quartus project together, instantiating the memory interface you require, and confirm a valid pinout before going too far.

 

Cheers,

Alex

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Hi Alex

 

Thanks for the response.

 

How does this FPGA supports DDR3 interface(Data width and Max. Memory size)?

 

Regards

Srikanth Kacchu

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Why do you need 8 DQS if you're only doing 4, x16 plus ECC? And where are you seeing that only 5 are available? Pin Planner?

 

You may also want to check the EMIF spec estimator:

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/programmable/support/support-resources/support-centers/exter...

 

#iwork4intel

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The table in this document will tell you your device have how many x8 DQS group.

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/programmable/us/en/pdfs/literature/hb/arria-v/av_5v2.pdf#page=...

But @a_x_h_75​ is true. No matter how, you still need to make sure you can fit it using Quartus.

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Totally, we are storing 45 bits of data and 8/6 bits of ECC. We are using x16 DDR3L memory devices(4 Nos).

 

In first DDR3L - D0 to D15 data

In second DDR3L - D16 to D31 data

In third DDR3L - D32 to D44 data

In fourth DRR3L - 8 or 6 bits of ECC

 

Each DDR3L memory devices has 2 DQS pairs. Since we are using 4 Nos of DDR3L devices, we need 7 to 8 DQS pairs.

 

We have seen the "Pin information for the Arria V 5AGXMB1 Device" document. It shows only 5 pairs of DQS signals i.e, DQS6T, DQS7T, DQS8T, DQS9T and DQS10T in x16/x18 column.

 

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Moderator
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In this case , mean the device unable to support that 45bits interface. The device only can support up to X8 *5 which is X40bits interface.

 

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with how many ECC bits?

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ECC also use the same DQS group of the device. So is 40bits included ECC.

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