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board identify utility

Greetings,

I have an older board that I am about to upgrade to a faster CPU and I

tried to use the BoardID.exe utility in Windows ME. It didn't work as per

the instruction on the Intel download page suggested.

I doubled clicked on it but nothing happened.

I then went into a DOS window and tried to open it but nothing

happened. The file appears to be a DOS based utility so I

don't understand why the download page tells people to

simply double-click in Windows.

How do you actually use this thing. I downloaded the correct

file as per the operating system, so I'd like to use it to

be sure of my board's exact model and it's current BIOS

version, because I recall reading that in some cases

that going to a faster freq CPU sometimes requires an

bios upgrade. I'm going from a Pent 4 socket423 1.3ghz to a 2.0ghz.

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Greetings Capt.

So is an OEM board so much different than a non-OEM?

How much different?

Does that mean that the Intel BIOS upgrades will not work on this

OEM board? (It's an Intel chipset)

TY & Happy holiday

I'm learning something.

-FC

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Community Manager
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Hi,

As far as i know, even if the OEM and boxed boards are identical they will have a different BIOS string and therefore not let you update it with the intel one.

On how different they are i couldn't tell you in terms that intel has produced some boards that are oem but never made a boxed version, and have also made other OEMs boards which were near identical copies of a boxed version. Hope this helps.

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May be a confusion in terms?

Type 1 -- Intel makes processors that go in to computers, a board that takes a Intel processor might be called an "Intel Board"?

Type 2 -- Intel make chipsets to work with Intel processors, which might also be called "an Intel Board" ?

Type 3 -- Intel makes custom mother boards which are sold to OEM's under the ODM brand name and usually with a custom OEM BIOS, with are the same level of "Intel Board" as the two cases above?

Lastly, Type 4 -- Intel makes mother boards which are sold indivuality and to ODM's to intregrate into systems, which is what the folks on this thread call "an Intel Board"

D850GB is the part number for an Intel mother board. http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/dsktpboards/d850gb http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/dsktpboards/d850gb

HP model numbering a B at the end indicates a bundle. (ie came with a printer and monitor)

D850 is a "non-Intel" processor used in some HP systems.

I could not find this model on HP site either but this like takes you to the HP help me find my model number page. (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?tmp_renderType=findModel&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docname=c000... N191 http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?tmp_renderType=findModel&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docname=c000... N191

And there is greater difference between one boards BIOS and the next than most car parts. Would you expect a Mercedes motor to drop in and work in a VW bug?

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Well the BIOS string says GB85010A.18A.0047.P06

Belarc says it IS an Intel board, but as you all say,... it's an OEM.

The cruix of the matter is there is a 1.3ghz Pentium 4 PGA423 pins running things now.

AND I have a Pentium 4 2.0ghz that i want to replace it. (also a PGA423 pin)

The Intel site says I'd need bios version P014 or better, or the 2.0ghz cpu will not allow a boot. (which is true)

Bios upgrades on the INTEL site go all the way up to P018. BUT WILL THE INTEL BIOS UPGRADE

WORK ON AN OEM COMPAQ INTEL BOARD?

Additionally there is ALSO a bios upgrade on the HP site for this series 7000 Presario BUT I have no idea

what that bios upgrade specifically supports or what version it will upgrade to. (I need version 14 or better)

Any way of knowing if the Intel BIOS upgrade will work on my OEM GB850?

TY

Happy holidays

Frank

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Honored Contributor I
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In a word NO do not use a INTEL BIOS on a compaq or HP . you will make a door stop.

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Honored Contributor I
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ED you have to know that all Compaq and HP BIOS are perpritory, And if you try to use anything but a HP BIOS you are going to make a door stop.

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Yes I understand. Never attempt to load Intel BIOS on and OEM board. Actually the BIOS flash program should check the BIOS ID and wouldn't allow you to upgrade if the BIOS ID doesn't match. That's why I'm pointing Frank to http://h20180.www2.hp.com/apps/Nav?h_pagetype=s-002&h_lang=en&h_cc=us&h_product=89327&h_client=S-A-R... HP.

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Valued Contributor III
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Well, a little more information.. It is a 7000 Presario. OK which one?

Now that we know it is a 7000 Presario (sure hope you don't mean a S7000. A lot more of them listed)

Each of the 5 have a ROMPKG (BIOS update) posted.

 

" Compaq Presario 7APM31 Desktop PC

 

" Compaq Presario 7ELM21 Desktop PC

 

" Compaq Presario 7PLK11 Desktop PC

 

" Compaq Presario 7QSM11 Desktop PC

 

" Compaq Presario 7RPK11 Desktop PC

 

By checking the raw files it appears yours is the 7RPK11.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=35911&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&os=20... http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=35911&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&os=20...

Download package SP18770 update from HP from link above

Create floppy DIsk

Flash your system to BIOS version GB85010A.86A.0066.P15

Reboot and make sure all is well

Power down and remove AC and swap your CPU.

If this does not work, nothing will.

And Belarc may be correct. It could be a Intel OEM board build by Intel for HP. (type 3 above)

Intel builds boards for many major computer vendors. It is not a D850GB. That board is ~ 3 generations newer than the 7RPK11

If you look on the mother board for the serial number label and part number label. An Intel part number will be Lnnnnn-nnn (Letter, 5 numbers - 3 numbers)

You still have to get the BIOS from HP.

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It is the 7RPK11. If the P015 denotes the bios version then I should be ok because

that makes the bios update file a version 15.( I need 14 or better)

I downloaded it already but b4 I attempt the update I want to familiarize myself

with the proceedure on how to recover, in case the upgrade goes bad.

TY I let you know how it turns out.

Happy Holidays

-FC

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