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BDoyl
Beginner
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Can't boot DE3815TYBE headless?

Hello,

I have a DE3815TYBE updated to the 7/10/14 bios. I've installed Debian 7.6 to the internal drive and everything works fine when I have a monitor connected via either the HDMI port or the VGA header.

When I attempt to boot without a monitor attached however the system just hangs. I've tried to log via netconsole and it doesn't even get that far. If I boot with the monitor connected then disconnect it after everything is loaded the system runs just fine.

I've tried a variety of kernel parameters and nothing seems to help.

To Intel: Does the NUC require a connected monitor (or EDID reply) in order to boot?

Is anyone else running Debian headless?

Thank you.

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Allan_J_Intel1
Employee
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Thanks for joining the NUC community.

I understand you need a monitor to boot remotely when you are using a NUC system, however, this matter has been addressed at engineering level.

Please check this thread for more information: /message/236138# 236138 https://communities.intel.com/message/236138# 236138

Additional information about headless issue: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-034652.htm Intel® NUC Boards and Kits — Remote access to Intel NUCs

Allan.

PBera2
Beginner
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Hello,

is there any progress, please? I have the same problem with DE3815TYBE board, not booting without a monitor connected (HDMI or VGA). I need Debian headless too.

Thank you.

JStaf
Beginner
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Hi All,

I am also having issues booting DE3815TYBE board in headless mode (no VGI or HDMI plugged). I updated BIOS to the latest version. I have Debian Wheezy 7.8 installed and the system doesn't boot at all. I tried change BIOS settings and boot only from HDMI or VGA but no luck. Is that because of this board doesn't support headless boot at all or can it be somehow fixed by different video drivers. I would like to avoid using some dummy VGI plugs.

If this board doesn't support headless boot, is there any other intel nuc board which does headless boot?

Thanks for any advice.

Jan

CSmit18
New Contributor I
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Jan, I have been using the Celeron DCCP847DYE for almost a year in a headless configuration. It is one of the cheaper NUCs and if you can live with a Windows Experience Index of 3.9 for your application, I would recommend it. I have it configured with 4GB of RAM and a 128 SSD with Windows 7 Home Premium, 64bit, in an always-on environment.

Hope this helps.

Charlie

PS: As other threads will explain, it is likely an electrical resistance issue trying to operate the NUC without an attached monitor. I had to go to Radio Shack (RIP) and buy a package of resistors and jury-rig them to plug into the proper holes of the female end of a DVI monitor port of my old Apple MacMini to get it to operate as a music server in my house as an always-on, headless unit. I'm surprised to be reading about this issue with NUCs in 2015. I run a very nice NUC 5425 as my personal PC (with a monitor attached) and am delighted with it, although upon occasion, when I 'awaken' my monitor, I don't get a signal from the NUC. I've launched a separate thread about that but haven't heard anything yet. Good luck.

JStaf
Beginner
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Hi Charlie, it was a false alarm, my NUC was booting but i was blindly logging in and trying to type "reboot" but I wasnt under root. So I thought that it didn't booted up. Sorry for the misleading post. I can boot heedlessly now even without using resistors. But thanks for your ideas and tips anyways.

FLast26
Novice
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Using BIOS version 24 for the DE3815TYKHE (DE3815TYBE) seems to allow it to boot headless. More information here: https://communities.intel.com/message/285965# 285965 https://communities.intel.com/message/285965# 285965

pcova
Beginner
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I think I read all open threads about DE3815TYKHE and nothing better that downgrading to v24 ... so to move on ? how to proceed now ? how to attract attention of Engineering or Marketing team ? Is there a workflow for users community to report actual Bugs on Intel Products ? Maybe I should open an other thread specifically about relationship with users or developers ?

Here some links : https://servicerequestmgmt.intel.com/WebticketUI/ServiceRequest.aspx https://servicerequestmgmt.intel.com/WebticketUI/ServiceRequest.aspx

More to come at :

/message/318750# 318750 https://communities.intel.com/message/318750# 318750

pcova
Beginner
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Is there a place to make proper bug reports ?

I quote KDD from : /thread/77745?start=15&tstart=0 https://communities.intel.com/thread/77745?start=15&tstart=0

"3. Defect which has not been resolved - This model NUC will not complete POST unless a monitor is connected. This of course prevents any headless boot. The last BIOS release where this defect was not present was 0024. Multiple customers have posted about it in this forum multiple times beginning soon after the release of version 0030: /thread/54144 https://communities.intel.com/thread/54144 Now after 15 months and 9 more BIOS releases, this defect is STILL present. This gives the appearance that customer field defects are not being used to create new test cases in the BIOS test plans, so the same old defect ships, over and over."

Allan_J_Intel1
Employee
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Please check post # 14.

Allan.

KDann1
New Contributor I
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What about it? Post 14 says try BIOS 0046, which does NOTHING for this defect.

Allan_J_Intel1
Employee
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Sorry to hear that did not work for you. Please keep checking for future BIOS update here https://downloadcenter.intel.com/ Intel® Download Center

Allan.

JHoff6
Valued Contributor II
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Have you considered using a dummy HDMI plug? It should allow the NUC to boot with out a monitor. Something like this: http://www.amazon.com/CompuLab-fit-Headless-Display-Emulator/dp/B00FLZXGJ6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=14... http://www.amazon.com/CompuLab-fit-Headless-Display-Emulator/dp/B00FLZXGJ6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=14...

I've tried it on other NUC models (using Windows) and it works perfectly.

KDann1
New Contributor I
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Jason, my response to that would be why should I have to when at one time this defect was not present? This only became a problem starting with BIOS 0030 and has been a problem with every BIOS release since. Why not fix the actual defect instead of trying to bandaid it?

pcova
Beginner
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Other are complaining at :

/thread/53224?sr=stream https://communities.intel.com/thread/53224?sr=stream

Is an other bios release planned ?

/docs/DOC-25132 https://communities.intel.com/docs/DOC-25132

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