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External Graphic cards for NUCI8HVK

BHjal
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Which chassi brand and boards are available for upgrade of the graphics (connected to the Thunderbolt bus).

Has anyone experience with external graphic boards with NUCI8HVK?

/Bjorn

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MLevi
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Check-out the answer to the same question asked a few months ago.

REs
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When a TB3 device works with the NUC8i7HVK, is it safe to assume it will also work with the NUC8i7BEH?

MLevi
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Yes. The specification for your NUC8i7BEH and the NUC8i7HVK are the same (except the HVK has two).

"The boards support Thunderbolt™ 3 with up to 40 Gbps of data throughput, one 4k (60Hz) monitor output, USB3.1 (Gen 2) connection and charging capabilities up to 5V at 3A via the back panel USB Type C connector. Item A in Figure 11 shows the location of the rear panel USB Type C port."

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/mini-pcs/NUC8i3BE_NUC8i5BE_NUC8i7BE_TechProdSpec.pdf https://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/mini-pcs/NUC8i3BE_NUC8i5BE_NUC8i7BE_TechProdSpec.pdf

REs
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Thank you.

So, the lists under "Thunderbolt™ and USB Type C Devices" in the Compatibility Tool should be the same for NUC8i7BEH and NUC8i7HVK. But they are not...

MLevi
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Not sure what you are referring to.

The USB-C identifies the specification for the Port capabilities. It's the same for the HVK and the BEH. Thunderbolt 3 identifies the kind of cable to use. Hint, 40Gbps is key.

Here's the BEH technical specification

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/mini-pcs/NUC8i3BE_NUC8i5BE_NUC8i7BE_TechProdSpec.pdf https://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/mini-pcs/NUC8i3BE_NUC8i5BE_NUC8i7BE_TechProdSpec.pdf

Here's the HVK technical specification

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/mini-pcs/nuc-kits/NUC8i7HVK_TechProdSpec.pdf https://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/mini-pcs/nuc-kits/NUC8i7HVK_TechProdSpec.pdf

What is the difference in the specification? I'm not seeing any differences. Can you share a screen shot or reference?

Here's page 16 for the BEH

The boards support Thunderbolt™ 3 with up to 40 Gbps of data throughput, one 4k (60Hz) monitor output, USB3.1 (Gen 2) connection and charging capabilities up to 5V at 3A via the back panel USB Type C connector. Item A in Figure 11 shows the location of the rear panel USB Type C port.

Here's page 36 for the HVK

The boards support Thunderbolt™ 3 with up to 40 Gbps of data throughput, one 4k (60Hz) monitor output, USB3.1 (Gen 2) connection and charging capabilities up to 5V at 3A via the back panel USB Type C connector. Item A in Figure 11 shows the location of the rear panel USB Type C port.

REs
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I was referring to the Intel® Product Compatibility Tool that is mentioned in the Correct Answer in the thread you linked to.

If you check TB3 compatibility with this tool the list of devices differs based on the chosen NUC, NUC8i7BEH or NUC8i7HVK.

 

This tool: http://compatibleproducts.intel.com/ProductDetails?activeModule=Intel%C2%AE%20NUC
MLevi
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Oh, that's different completely. Sorry, I didn't get your question.

It means that Intel hasn't yet got around to test the same hardware on the BEH that they tested for the HVK.

for example the BEH

HVK

In both instances, the information provided and what has been tested are different, though the AKiTiO is likely the same.

These compatibility tested results are always way behind what is in the market. Basically, you do not need to worry about it. If the bus-powered device that you want to use on the BEH requires a USB-C and TB3 cable for 15W of bus-power, it will work. It's just not been tested. For example, I use a Universal Audio Arrow Sound Interface that requires a USB-C (TB3) @40Gbps. It would work equally as well on the HVK or BEH, but it's not been tested on either, for compatibility (yet).

REs
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All right, so the External Graphics should work on the NUC8i7BEH as well.

Thanks for your input.

BHjal
Beginner
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Yes,I found this info after I posting the message. Thank's anyway for the link!

Then the next thing is to decide on best solution of chassi and graphic baord.

Right now I lean against AKitio Thunder2 PCIE Box chassi plus a graphic board.

The chassi is rather cheap and is possible to upgrade, which can be a problem with e.g. Aorus Gaming Box solution.

There are no USB connection on AKitio, but is this important?. What is the benefit of connect mouse and keyboard directly to the node?

I have also learned that there is a punishment to connect the board through Thunderbolt, due to the overhead on the bus. About 25/% less capacity compared with using it in a PC.

Any other experiences of using eGPU?

/Bjorn

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