I219-V Part identification

[RogerP]

Hello - 

I am trying to ascertain the part number for the ethernet controllers on NUCs. 

For instance, I have a Nuc8i5BEH. The page:

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/126148/intel-nuc-kit-nuc8i5beh.html

Says that it has an Intel® Ethernet Connection I219-V. 
Looking at that page:

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/82186/intel-ethernet-connection-i219-v.html

the datasheet http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/embedded/products/networking/ethernet-connection-i219-datasheet.html (note it doesn't say -V)

Says the Vendor ID is 8086 and the Device ID is 10D4. 

On my Nuc8 box itself:

nuc8% lspci -nn | grep Ether
00:1f.6 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (6) I219-V [8086:15be] (rev 30)

Likewise the Nuc10 also says it has an I219-V but the PCI Device ID is different:

nuc10% lspci -nn | grep Ether

00:1f.6 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (10) I219-V [8086:0d4f]

So my questions:
   Are there multiple revisions of the I219-V? 
   Am I looking at the wrong datasheet or device ID for the Nuc 8?
   Is the response to lspci coming from something other than the I219-V? 

   Is there a way I can tell from the online specifications/datasheets/ordering information exactly what ethernet controller (down to the PCI ID) is on a specific Nuc8/9/10/11 and how it well self identify? 

Thanks,

Roger

[AndrewG_Intel]

Hello @RogerP

Thank you for posting on the Intel® communities.

In order to check this request further, could you please provide the following information?

1- For reference purposes, what is the full/exact model of the Intel® NUC 10th Gen?

2- Why do you need this information? Are you a system integrator or are you performing any specific task or upgrade process? Please provide details.

3- Are you experiencing any issue with the Intel® NUC and/or its Ethernet Controller/port/driver?

4- BIOS versions for both Intel® NUC 8th Gen and Intel® NUC 10th Gen:

5- Operating System version/build number/Kernel version, etc:

Best regards,

Andrew G.

Intel Customer Support Technician

[RogerP]

Hi Andrew- Thanks for the reply. 

1) Nuc10 is BXNUC10i5FNH1 
2,3 and 5) We're a systems integrator and trying to make sure we are ordering NUCs which match the capabilities of our kernel. 
We tried with our current kernel (CENTOS 7.7, version 3.10) and were unable to make the NUC 10's ethernet controller (8086:0d4f) work. Apparently that was added in the 5.3 kernel.  If we need a new kernel we want to make sure we're going to get the same ethernet controller with each Nuc and be able to check the kernel sources are compatible. 

4) Nuc8 BIOS is BECFL357.86A.0073.2019.0618.1409

    Nuc10 BIOS is FNCML357.0047.2020.1118.1629

Thoughts? 

Thanks, 

Roger

[n_scott_pearson]

The overall Ethernet solution consists of an interface-independent MAC and an interface-specific (Ethernet) PHY. The MAC is actually built into the chipset (the PCH component) and it is the MAC that you communicate with. From one chipset generation to another, the address of the MAC changes, so it appears that the overall solution - even though using (and identifying as) the same Ethernet PHY - will have a different address.

AFAIK, the drivers for Windows and Linux will handle this difference in stride.

...S

[RogerP]

Thanks Scott.... The PCI ID is what changed and that confused our kernel. It looks like it may just be a table entry but we'd like to at least be sure PCI IDs aren't changing within the same chipset generation and that we know which kernel we need to use. 

[AndrewG_Intel]

Hello RogerP

Thank you very much for your response and all the details provided, as well thank you to n_scott_pearson for the information provided.

Please allow us to take a look into this and we will be posting back as soon as more details are available.

Best regards,

Andrew G.

Intel Customer Support Technician

[RogerP]

Thanks Andrew. Mainly we'd like to know what PCI ID We'd see on each Nuc generation (8,9,10,11) and be sure the PCI ID won't change within a generation. 

[Ronny_G_Intel]

Hi @RogerP  and @AndrewG_Intel 

I checked with the Ethernet Team and I am afraid I don't have good news,  we don't have a table that shows the versions or Device IDs of Ethernet I219-V adapters that are integrated inside the different NUCs, I was told that there is a chance that the same NUC product could have different Ethernet I219-V device IDs and again, we don't have a list of SA numbers vs Ethernet Device IDs.

The recommendation I got from the Ethernet Team is to try pcilookup.com but I don't think this is what you are looking for.

Unfortunately, we are not going to be able to help you with this request, I apologize. 

Regards,

Ronny G

[RogerP]

Thanks Ronny.... I appreciate you looking into this. 

[AndrewG_Intel]

Hello RogerP

We are checking this thread and we noticed there are no new additional inquiries so we will proceed to close it now.

If you need any additional information, please submit a new question as this thread will no longer be monitored. It has been a pleasure to assist you.

Best regards,

Andrew G.

Intel Customer Support Technician