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New Contributor I
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Optane 800P 120 GB M.2 not possible to use the optane technology if secondary drive is also SSD?

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So I installed the SetupOptaneMemory.exe driver, after reboot in setup it says "No compatible disks for Intal Optane memory" once I open the driver setup window, the Intel disk is in slot 2, it is also my boot drive. the secondary disk is Samsung 970 Pro 1TB in slot 1.

when I access the Intal optane settings via BIOS on my NUC8i7HVK, it also says "no disk connected to system".

It seems that I did a pointless purchase where I have no additional benefit from the optane technology or am I doing something wrong?

Note: PCIE remapping option in bios was turned on after OS install and the OS boots normally, no changes in performance detected.

this is the driver I am using https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/28072/Intel-Optane-Memory-User-Interface-and-Driver-for-Sy... Download Intel® Optane™ Memory User Interface and Driver for System Acceleration (I did not install f6flpy-x64.zip, just SetupOptaneMemory.exe), reinstalling this driver after enabling storage remapping did not solve my problem.

also I didnt see the prompt that the video guide mentions that you get when rebooting after completed driver installation. the prompt in question is available to be seen here at 3:28 https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000023845/memory-and-storage/intel-optane-m... How to Upgrade, Install, and Manage Intel® Optane™ Memory in Windows®...

 

so that technically means my BIOS was set up properly and that is why the prompt was lacking during my installation?

Edit: storage remapping is on on slot 2. chipset sata mode is enabled and set to raid. if I enter add-in config and select intel optane configuration, it still says "no disk connected to system". secure boot is also enabled per some advice I found online.

according to this article https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000023994/memory-and-storage/intel-optane-m... Overview and Requirements for Intel® Optane™ Memory my NUC should qualify for optane technology, it is also supposed to work with SSD drives. I even left 1GB of unallocated space at the end instead of recommended 5MB

Edit2: my system support utility log is available here https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h7ovGPlwH-hFu2udNt8Hhlu_K6FpyzqZ/view?usp=sharing system_support_utility.txt - Google Drive

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Super User Retired Employee
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Optane drives are used to accelerate the performance of SATA-based HDDs. If you have a M.2 NVMe SSD in one slot, an Optane card in the other slot is useless.

Sorry, reality bites,

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Optane drives are used to accelerate the performance of SATA-based HDDs. If you have a M.2 NVMe SSD in one slot, an Optane card in the other slot is useless.

Sorry, reality bites,

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New Contributor I
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ouch, expensive lesson learned. didnt even think about this twice when I saw the new optane disk in nvme form factor. guess its for regular MBs that offer both nvme m.2 and sata slots.

Guess I was also misled, ebcause there is a huge SATA tab present in my BIOS settings

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Actually, both of the M.2 slots on the HV NUC are SATA slots as well as NVMe slots. Its debatable how much an Optane module could accelerate the performance of an M.2 SATA SSD, however. It is really meant to accelerate the performance of HDDs. Hooking a HDD to this NUC is tough. You would need an adapter that breaks out the SATA port and I haven't seen one that did so without making it impossible to put the lid back on the NUC. At the same time, how you would route the SATA cable out to a HDD and still be able to close the lid is just as big a problem. The NUC does provide a SATA power connector to support this though.

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New Contributor I
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I know there is a significant difference when paired with classic HDDs, but sinceit is hard to get to performance tests/results online with a highly specific HW setup, I wanted to try and compare for myself. Additional question, since Optane Memory is a no go, would raid 0 setup see any significant difference in reads/writes? Again, its hard to compare online results with this specific HW setup in mind, I didnt find any. I was considering hooking up two highend Samsung mvme drives, but not sure if its worth it when talking raw performance. I know the risks once hw failure occurs, but I would do regular backups of OS, the rest is replacable data.

//btw you gave me something to think about.. the sata cable could be wired via kensington lock, which i dont use, but would need some significant modification. could be easily done drilling a hole in the plastic side ventilation though

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Will not it improve access time and read 4k?

Make optane to work only with Intel NVMe ssd's

Is there an internal confrontation?

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If the target is a SATA-based device, then it can improve performance, but only minimally if it is a SSD - so minimally that Intel chose to not support this option. As for NVMe-based SSDs, it isn't going to improve their performance at all.

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