Error: No spd files are included in quartus project

[syam404]

1)While performing Generate Simulator Setup Script for IP it shows Error: No spd files are included in quartus project. So we are unable to generate .tcl file for simulation

2)I am using quartus prime 21.2 version in that there is no RTL Simulator.So how to do simulation now?

3)While creating block diagram design with IPs, how to create HDL wrapper of this and simulate

Thanks

[RichardTanSY_Intel]

Hi @syam404 

1. Have you try to Generate HDL for your platform designer system?  You will need to generate the files through platform designer.

2. You may use our simulator Modelsim Intel FPGA Edition (license required) or Modelsim Intel FPGA Starter Edition (no license required). https://fpgasoftware.intel.com/21.2/?edition=pro 

3. Are you using the Intel IP? I would recommend to use HDL instead of block diagram to write your design as the design getting larger and complicated. 

You may refer to the User Guide(UG) below to check the simulation flow. 

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/programmable/us/en/pdfs/literature/ug/ug-20093.pdf

You may test out the design example in the UG to learn how the simulation works. 

Best Regards,
Richard Tan

p/s: If any answer from the community or Intel support are helpful, please feel free to give Kudos. 

[syam404]

Good Morning Sir,

I am using Modelsim Intel FPGA Starter Edition only. In quartus prime 21.2 there is no RTL simulator like any other versions, so I have only one option to simulate that is by generating ip setup simulation script while doing this after compilation I am getting error like

How could I remove this error please help me @RichardTanSY_Intel 

I have already referred the below UG still my problem not solved. And many other UGs and Intel FPGA  videos I saw.

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/programmable/us/en/pdfs/literature/ug/ug-20093.pdf

Regards,

Syam Sundar( syamsundarmalla99@gmail.com)

[RichardTanSY_Intel]

Hi @syam404 

Your design only consist an adder, you don't need to use the Generate Simulator Setup Script for IP unless your design using Intel IP. 

You can just open a new project in Modelsim Intel FPGA Starter Edition and simulate the design. 

You may refer to this webpage on the how-to run manually simulation in Modelsim Intel Edition: 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/programmable/support/support-resources/design-examples/design-software/simulation/modelsim/simulation-manual-howto.html

Could you explain what you meant by? 

"In quartus prime 21.2 there is no RTL simulator like any other versions."

Quartus Prime software is not a RTL simulator though.  We will need a third-party simulator tool for functional simulation. 

Please refer to this brochure for further information: 

https://www.intel.la/content/dam/www/programmable/us/en/pdfs/literature/br/br-quartus-prime-software.pdf

Best Regards,

Richard Tan

[RichardTanSY_Intel · Accepted solution]

Hi @syam404 

May I know does my latest reply help?

Do you have further questions in regards to this case? 

Best Regards,
Richard Tan

p/s: If any answer from the community or Intel support are helpful, please feel free to give Kudos. 

[syam404]

Thank you sir my problem was resolved now

[RichardTanSY_Intel]

I’m glad that your question has been addressed. With that, I will now transition this thread to community support. If you have a new question, feel free to open a new thread to get the support from Intel experts. Otherwise, the community users will continue to help you on this thread. Thank you.

Best Regards,
Richard Tan

p/s: If any answer from the community or Intel support are helpful, please feel free to give Kudos. 

[dsun01]

Hi Richard 

I saw you gave a link 

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/programmable/us/en/pdfs/literature/ug/ug-20093.pdf

it is very helpful document to learn the Modelsim. but it didn't mention how to simulation Nios II. 

I have read AN351 document sentence by sentence, and try to follow it step by step, I got lost time and time because I am using Quartus Pro 21.3. AN351 is based On Quartus revision 11.  as a newbie, it is really hard to understand AN351 and follow it step by step. 

is there a good document like "ug-20093.pdf" that used to teach simulate Nios II? 

I really need a clear and easy tutorial to learn how to run "hello world" on Modelsim. 

Thank you very much. 

David. 

[RichardTanSY_Intel]

Hi @dsun01 

I believe AN351 is the document available on how to simulate Nios. 

You may checkout this video but this is using command line. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw3rr76QEIc

As this thread has been closed, please kindly file a new forum case to get help on your issue.

Best Regards,
Richard Tan

p/s: If any answer from the community or Intel support are helpful, please feel free to give Kudos. 
 

[dsun01]

Have you ever watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw3rr76QEIc?

is there other approach if I don't familiar with command line?

I have posed many threads in the last few days. never have response yet. you are the first response to me with 

"please kindly file a new forum case to get help on your issue"

[RichardTanSY_Intel]

Share me the forum thread and I can help you to escalate your issue. 

[dsun01]

Hi Richard, 

After many hours struggle, I figured out how to run this AN351, Thank you very much for the offering. but I do have few more word about AN351, it is just my feeling, first it is not user friendly, it is very hard to understand and use if the goal of AN351 is for new user. second, for a newbie, it is a important tutorial, why there is no uprev to fix the problem and catch up the latest tools?  I guess there maybe other good tutorial in the handbook or somewhere, Intel web searching facility is also not as smart as google search engine. it is only my personal feeling. 

Best Regards,

David

[dsun01]

Just FYI

https://community.intel.com/t5/Nios-II-Embedded-Design-Suite/update-for-AN351/m-p/1351699#M51062

https://community.intel.com/t5/Nios-II-Embedded-Design-Suite/AN351-really-confused-me/m-p/1351698#M51061

https://community.intel.com/t5/Nios-II-Embedded-Design-Suite/Nios-II-simulation-with-Questa/m-p/1351656#M51059

I am a very old newbie, I took Altera training class maybe 20 years ago, I don't have time and money to take training class now, I hope to have some step by step tutorial for the entry level.  for Nios II simulation, it involve Quartus, Questa, Eclipse, I know it is very complicate, but as a great company like Intel, should be able to have a good tutorial to help entry level. 

Thank you,

David