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Whenever I try to start the Signal Tap Logic Analyzer in a project using the Stratix 10 DX FPGA, Quartus will unconditionally crash with one of the following stack traces. This happens a few seconds after clicking the "Create" button in the template selection dialog while Signal Tap seems to be loading.
Problem Details
Error:
*** Fatal Error: Access Violation at 00007FFAC1FBC6F3
Module: qpro.exe
Stack Trace:
Quartus 0x1c6f2: ASN_SGATE_HIER_NETLIST_LOADER::create_hieharchy_forest + 0x332 (sld_asn)
Quartus 0x1dc53: ASN_SGATE_HIER_NETLIST_LOADER::load + 0x53 (sld_asn)
Quartus 0x2a08a: tbb::internal::function_task<<lambda_85dc533730a8f1b32781bfee97564a95> >::execute + 0x1a (sld_asn)
Quartus 0x20e8f: tbb::internal::custom_scheduler<tbb::internal::IntelSchedulerTraits>::local_wait_for_all + 0x35f (tbb) at quartus\extlibs64\tbb\tbb-2018_U1oss_altera\src\tbb\custom_scheduler.h:509
Quartus 0x1da3f: tbb::internal::arena::process + 0x16f (tbb) at quartus\extlibs64\tbb\tbb-2018_U1oss_altera\src\tbb\arena.cpp:160
Quartus 0x18ce3: tbb::internal::market::process + 0xe3 (tbb) at quartus\extlibs64\tbb\tbb-2018_U1oss_altera\src\tbb\market.cpp:693
Quartus 0x11fbb: tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run + 0x6b (tbb) at quartus\extlibs64\tbb\tbb-2018_U1oss_altera\src\tbb\private_server.cpp:270
Quartus 0x1223a: tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine + 0x5a (tbb) at quartus\extlibs64\tbb\tbb-2018_U1oss_altera\src\tbb\private_server.cpp:223
Quartus 0x21bb1: _configthreadlocale + 0x91 (ucrtbase)
Quartus 0x17033: BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x13 (KERNEL32)
Quartus 0x52650: RtlUserThreadStart + 0x20 (ntdll)
End-trace
Quartus Prime Version 22.1.0 Build 174 03/30/2022 SC Pro Edition
Executable: qpro
Comment:
None
System Information
Platform: windows64
OS name: Windows 10
OS version: 10.0
Quartus Prime Information
Address bits: 64
Version: 22.1.0
Build: 174
Edition: Pro Edition
Problem Details
Error:
*** Fatal Error: Access Violation at 00007FFAAF1DFBFF
Module: qpro.exe
Stack Trace:
Quartus 0xfbfe: rml::internal::freeSmallObject + 0x1e (tbbmalloc) at quartus\extlibs64\tbb\tbb-2018_U1oss_altera\src\tbbmalloc\frontend.cpp:2502
Quartus 0x14933: std::vector<ASN_SGATE_HIER_NETLIST_LOADER::TREE_NODE * __ptr64,std::allocator<ASN_SGATE_HIER_NETLIST_LOADER::TREE_NODE * __ptr64> >::_Emplace_reallocate<ASN_SGATE_HIER_NETLIST_LOADER::TREE_NODE * __ptr64> + 0x103 (sld_asn)
Quartus 0x1c705: ASN_SGATE_HIER_NETLIST_LOADER::create_hieharchy_forest + 0x345 (sld_asn)
Quartus 0x1dc53: ASN_SGATE_HIER_NETLIST_LOADER::load + 0x53 (sld_asn)
Quartus 0x2a08a: tbb::internal::function_task<<lambda_85dc533730a8f1b32781bfee97564a95> >::execute + 0x1a (sld_asn)
Quartus 0x20e8f: tbb::internal::custom_scheduler<tbb::internal::IntelSchedulerTraits>::local_wait_for_all + 0x35f (tbb) at quartus\extlibs64\tbb\tbb-2018_U1oss_altera\src\tbb\custom_scheduler.h:509
Quartus 0x1da3f: tbb::internal::arena::process + 0x16f (tbb) at quartus\extlibs64\tbb\tbb-2018_U1oss_altera\src\tbb\arena.cpp:160
Quartus 0x18ce3: tbb::internal::market::process + 0xe3 (tbb) at quartus\extlibs64\tbb\tbb-2018_U1oss_altera\src\tbb\market.cpp:693
Quartus 0x11fbb: tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run + 0x6b (tbb) at quartus\extlibs64\tbb\tbb-2018_U1oss_altera\src\tbb\private_server.cpp:270
Quartus 0x1223a: tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine + 0x5a (tbb) at quartus\extlibs64\tbb\tbb-2018_U1oss_altera\src\tbb\private_server.cpp:223
Quartus 0x21bb1: _configthreadlocale + 0x91 (ucrtbase)
Quartus 0x17033: BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x13 (KERNEL32)
Quartus 0x52650: RtlUserThreadStart + 0x20 (ntdll)
End-trace
Quartus Prime Version 22.1.0 Build 174 03/30/2022 SC Pro Edition
Executable: qpro
Comment:
None
System Information
Platform: windows64
OS name: Windows 10
OS version: 10.0
Quartus Prime Information
Address bits: 64
Version: 22.1.0
Build: 174
Edition: Pro Edition
Problem Details
Error:
Internal Error: Sub-system: HDB, File: /quartus/db/hdb/hdb_pdb.cpp, Line: 89
hdb_asgn_to_position == 0
Stack Trace:
Quartus 0x13551: HDB_ASGN_CONTAINER::customized_pdb_read + 0x79 (DB_HDB)
Quartus 0x13222: HDB_ASGN_CONTAINER::operator<< + 0x36 (DB_HDB)
Quartus 0x33684: HDB_SECTION::operator<< + 0x154 (DB_HDB)
Quartus 0x2d046: HDB_NAMESPACE::operator<< + 0x42 (DB_HDB)
Quartus 0x73e5: PDB_SEGMENT_READER::finish_reading_all + 0xa5 (DB_PDB)
Quartus 0x7138: pdb_read_ptr + 0x68 (DB_PDB)
Quartus 0x135d68: pdb_read<PDB_ARCHIVE,CDB_SGATE_RECONSTRUCT_HDB_INFO> + 0x70 (db_cdb_sgate)
Quartus 0x1363d1: CDB_SGATE_RECONSTRUCT_HDB_INFO_MODEL_HANDLER::read_model_from_file + 0xf1 (db_cdb_sgate)
Quartus 0x2d710: QDB_SERVICE_IMPL::get_model_using_handler + 0x350 (db_qdb)
Quartus 0x2bdd1: QDB_SERVICE_IMPL::get_model + 0x151 (db_qdb)
Quartus 0x6647c: QDB_BASIC_STATE::load_model_on_demand + 0xcc (db_qdb)
Quartus 0x669b8: QDB_BASIC_STATE::load_raw_model + 0x88 (db_qdb)
Quartus 0x660a4: QDB_BASIC_STATE::load + 0xfa4 (db_qdb)
Quartus 0x14f0ae: QHD_PARTITION_IMPL::load_state + 0x1de (comp_qhd)
Quartus 0xcfa99: QHD_DATABASE_UTILS::IMPL::load_partition_tree + 0x4c9 (comp_qhd)
Quartus 0xa7839: QHD_DATABASE_UTILS::load_design + 0x1119 (comp_qhd)
Quartus 0xd3b7: QHD_DBMUI_MANAGER_IMPL::load_db + 0xe7 (comp_qhd_dbmui)
Quartus 0xd94e: QHD_DBMUI_MANAGER_IMPL::load_design + 0x22e (comp_qhd_dbmui)
Quartus 0xfd27: DBMUI_MANAGER::get_qhd_hdb_cmp_action_pt_instance + 0xf7 (DB_DBMUI)
Quartus 0x58357: SEDQ_TX_MANAGER::check_node_validity + 0xf7 (sld_sedq)
Quartus 0xf394d: SEDQ_TX_MANAGER::open_document + 0xc5d (sld_sedq)
Quartus 0xf3c79: SEDQ_FRAME_WND::open_file_from_template + 0xe9 (sld_sedq)
Quartus 0x6465e: SEDQ_TEMPLATE_DLG::create_new_file + 0x20e (sld_sedq)
Quartus 0x13c4be: sedq_dyn_template_dlg + 0x2e (sld_sedq)
Quartus 0xb9296: QUI_TOOLS_MENU::sedq_action + 0x236 (SYS_QUI)
Quartus 0x1fab9f: QMimeData::urls + 0x13af (Qt5Core)
Quartus 0x6c76: QAction::activate + 0x136 (Qt5Widgets)
Quartus 0x160ef7: QMenu::actionGeometry + 0x457 (Qt5Widgets)
Quartus 0x160d65: QMenu::actionGeometry + 0x2c5 (Qt5Widgets)
Quartus 0x1663d8: QMenu::mouseReleaseEvent + 0xb8 (Qt5Widgets)
Quartus 0x39505: QWidget::event + 0x145 (Qt5Widgets)
Quartus 0x1625bb: QMenu::event + 0x17b (Qt5Widgets)
Quartus 0x171cc: QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper + 0x13c (Qt5Widgets)
Quartus 0x14ed0: QApplication::notify + 0x7d0 (Qt5Widgets)
Quartus 0x1da788: QCoreApplication::notifyInternal2 + 0xb8 (Qt5Core)
Quartus 0x18531: QApplicationPrivate::sendMouseEvent + 0x331 (Qt5Widgets)
Quartus 0x613c2: QSizePolicy::QSizePolicy + 0x2792 (Qt5Widgets)
Quartus 0x5f616: QSizePolicy::QSizePolicy + 0x9e6 (Qt5Widgets)
Quartus 0x171cc: QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper + 0x13c (Qt5Widgets)
Quartus 0x1516e: QApplication::notify + 0xa6e (Qt5Widgets)
Quartus 0x1da788: QCoreApplication::notifyInternal2 + 0xb8 (Qt5Core)
Quartus 0x5b513: QGuiApplicationPrivate::processMouseEvent + 0x723 (Qt5Gui)
Quartus 0x46b3a: QWindowSystemInterface::sendWindowSystemEvents + 0x9a (Qt5Gui)
Quartus 0x227b4d: QEventDispatcherWin32::processEvents + 0xbd (Qt5Core)
Quartus 0x5a5b8: qt_plugin_query_metadata + 0x1dc8 (qwindows)
Quartus 0x1d6680: QEventLoop::exec + 0x1a0 (Qt5Core)
Quartus 0x1d947a: QCoreApplication::exec + 0x14a (Qt5Core)
Quartus 0x2bee: qgq_main + 0x7e (qpro)
Quartus 0x1db28: msg_main_thread + 0x18 (CCL_MSG)
Quartus 0x1e312: msg_thread_wrapper + 0x82 (CCL_MSG)
Quartus 0x2a313: mem_thread_wrapper + 0x73 (ccl_mem)
Quartus 0x1b048: msg_exe_main + 0x178 (CCL_MSG)
Quartus 0x4406: WinMain + 0x156 (qpro)
Quartus 0x3931: __scrt_common_main_seh + 0x105 (qpro)
Quartus 0x17033: BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x13 (KERNEL32)
Quartus 0x52650: RtlUserThreadStart + 0x20 (ntdll)
End-trace
Executable: qpro
Comment:
None
System Information
Platform: windows64
OS name: Windows 10
OS version: 10.0
Quartus Prime Information
Address bits: 64
Version: 22.1.0
Build: 174
Edition: Pro Edition
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Does the Quartus exit with a specific project/design? Will it re-occur if run with different design?
If so, could you help share your project .qar as the engineering team will need it to debug the issue.
Could you try to run the Quartus software as administrator and see if the issue occur?
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Indeed this issue only seems to occur with this specific project. Signal Tap works fine when using an example project generated through Platform Designer. Running Quartus as administrator does not help. I can share the .qar file, however, I'd prefer to do so privately. Can you give me an e-mail address or another means of communication where I can send the file to?
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I have drop you an email. Please kindly check your email.
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So I just open the .qar project and there is significant long loading time before the Quartus load the project.
Then I can open the Signal Tap GUI and click 'create' without any design compilation.
Is the correct way to duplicate the error? If not, could you help to share the steps?
Best Regards,
Richard Tan
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The long loading times are an issue, too. Is there anything that can be done about that?
I am not sure whether that's important, but I had selected the "mm_ddr4" revision when trying to use Signal Tap. I've also noticed that *sometimes* it works without crashing (I believe about 1 in 5 times) and only crashes again after Quartus was restarted. Perhaps try restarting Quartus a few times if it doesn't occur for you.
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I will need consult the engineering team regarding the long loading time.
Please expert that this may takes times depending on the issue complexity.
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Just to let you know that we may need some time to work on this.
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I think there is something wrong with your .qdb file in your project.
I cant seem to compile the project until I removed the .qdb file and set the preservation level to Not Set in the design partition window. I then able to open the project in a short loading time afterwards.
I tested a few times with the signal tap and it do not crash at all. Unfortunately, I am not able to help you if this is an intermittent issue.
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Do you have further question in regards to this case?
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I have yet to receive any response from you in regards to my last reply.
With that, I will now transition this thread to community support. If you have a new question, feel free to open a new thread to get the support from Intel experts. Otherwise, the community users will continue to help you on this thread. Thank you.
Best Regards,
Richard Tan
p/s: If any answer from the community or Intel Support are helpful, please feel free to give best answer or rate 9/10 survey.
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Sorry for the late reply. I've found that Signal Tap works fine in Quartus 22.2 (whereas it's still not working properly for me in 22.1), so that issue is probably solved for me. However, can you elaborate on a possible solution for the .qdb file issue? I have seen the long loading times in several different projects. Is it a viable (and safe in terms of data loss) solution to delete the .qdb file and recompile the whole project?

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