uC/OSII licence

Altera_Forum · ‎04-21-2005

Hello,

Can you say me what are licence condition tu use uc/OSII with NIOS ?

is there some royalties ?

Thanks

Etienne

Altera_Forum · ‎04-22-2005

Last time I checked, you pay them a one off licence fee for NIOS based products.

I think you must buy a 3 seat licence priced at $995 per seat, so $3000 and then that is it, no royalties.

Altera_Forum · ‎05-10-2005

Based on Altera's request, we used to license µC/OS-II on a per-seat basis but that complicated things especially when customers purchased some of our other components. Because of that and other reasons, we decided to change the licensing policy to match what we do with other CPUs.

Specifically, µC/OS-II is licensed on a per-end-product basis. Each different product that embeds µC/OS-II requires a different license. If a product contains multiple CPUs then each CPU that runs a different binary executable requires a different license. The cost of a license is $2750 USD. We also offer a product line (i.e. family) license, a per-CPU license, a per-Site license and others.

You are allowed to manufacture ANY number of units of the product that embeds µC/OS-II for the life of the product. In other words, there are no royalties.

Hope this clarifies things,

Jean J. Labrosse

Micriµm

Altera_Forum · ‎05-10-2005

Well, that may cause some problems. My project has five (5) boards each running a Nios2 on a Cyclone. Four of these are also running MicroC/OS-II. The code differences between each are small but the binary is different for each board. With your new licensing, the cost went from $3000 to $11000. This may or may not be a problem (I'm not the money man). If this is a problem, I'll be forced to switch to eCos (or the like). Can you comment on the product line or site licenses? Thanks

Altera_Forum · ‎05-23-2005

I'm looking to run multiprocessors in a system with different binaries. Again, the cost for our system will go up an awful lot from what I thought was the original license model.

Eeek.

Altera_Forum · ‎07-15-2005

i'm starting now with NIOS II developmente board , stratix II edition

In this case altera allow me to use uC/OSII

Also i'm studying uC/OSII .In the kit ther is a Labrosse' book about it .

i like this RTOS but as i can read it's too expensive

I want to make my compliments to Mr. Labrosse , because he's very cleever

and performant man .I read his story in the book

But if i will finish to study this book , after what can i do?

My job is programmer plc and pc , and if i want to start to try something different , like embedded applications i will have too much problem , the first one is the price

Mr. Labrosse , i know the job it's hard and expensive , but one question :

Why UC/OS II it's so expensive?

It's a pity , because if it was less expensive , may be many project programmer

wil buy it and use on own projects .

At the end , if you reduce the price you can sell more , and gain the same

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This is my stupid opinion

Special regards

walter

Altera_Forum · ‎10-09-2005

i like free .3000$ is too expensive.

Altera_Forum · ‎10-11-2005

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originally posted by walter@Jul 15 2005, 03:41 PM

i'm starting now with nios ii developmente board , stratix ii edition

in this case altera allow me to use uc/osii

also i'm studying uc/osii .in the kit ther is a labrosse' book about it .

i like this rtos but as i can read it's too expensive

i want to make my compliments to mr. labrosse , because he's very cleever

and performant man .i read his story in the book

but if i will finish to study this book , after what can i do?

my job is programmer plc and pc , and if i want to start to try something different , like embedded applications i will have too much problem , the first one is the price

mr. labrosse , i know the job it's hard and expensive , but one question :

why uc/os ii it's so expensive?

it's a pity , because if it was less expensive , may be many project programmer

wil buy it and use on own projects .

at the end , if you reduce the price you can sell more , and gain the same

http://forum.niosforum.com/work2/style_emoticons/<#emo_dir#>/cool.gif

this is my stupid opinion

special regards

walter

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Walter,

I understand your concern. What may be expensive to you is a bargain for others. If you consider that uC/OS-II is certifiable for both avionics and medical applications, the cost for a license is a real bargain. Of course, if you are not doing an avionics or medical application, this doesn't affect you but, what's important is this certifiability shows that uC/OS-II is a quality product.

Jean

Altera_Forum · ‎10-11-2005

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i like free .3000$ is too expensive.

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Well, I suppose you work for nothing? When was the last time you contributed free software?

Jean

Altera_Forum · ‎11-01-2005

hello mr. jean

sorry for respond later

but i came back just yesterday , after 3 mounth and more in Iran

for work http://forum.niosforum.com/work2/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

In this time i haven't a lot of time free , but sometimes

i open your fantastic book (uC/OS II )

and also read the article about how to do to try

and install your operating system in PC based windows (xp in my case )

I will stay at home for 10 day and after come back , back in this time

i would like to try this .

I hope not to have crash or something else

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i work and gain to eat with pc anc plc

kind regards mr. jean

walter

ciao

Altera_Forum · ‎11-02-2005

Micrium's post on licensing spelt out what I thought from their website. $3000 for every code wrinkle is just the start, if you add IP, GUI etc you can keep multiplying the costs.

We make low volume specialist products, often with a NIOS cpu. According to the licensing terms we would have to add $3000 to the cost of a one-off for a customer, just because the code is different, even of the board is the same. That really doesn't make sense for anyone.

I think Micrium should consider some sort of quantity license variation, eg $3000 for the first 100 shipped binaries regardless of product. How can it be right to charge $3000 for a million set-top boxes and the same $3000 for a one-off + $3000 for the next one-off +....

Altera_Forum · ‎11-10-2005

I'm performing a trade study for a new product we are under contract to build. After weighing the options, I concluded that uCOS-II was the right OS for the NIOS II / ethernet application. However, after reviewing the licensing fees, I'll have to look at Nucleus again or consider performing the work ourselves. I think the issue of price needs to be addressed before developers waste time working with a free eval bundled into the NIOS II Development Kit. At this point, it h http://forum.niosforum.com/work2/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif as potentially only cost me a day (if we choose another OS solely based on price). Knowing the fees ahead of time would have helped - especially since the price changed from the last time we inquired.