i7 14700 [ NON K ] Wattage

[Coffeelake]

So this cpu is 65w right. 

And intel website says its max turbo power 219watts right ? 

But if i go into my BIOS and select water cooler or performance mode. 

It shows 253w ( whats up with this )

Does that mean the CPU wil pull that wattage ? 

Or is it better to limit it in 219w ? 

Explain. 

And please someone that really knows. 

Have a nice day. 

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> But if i go into my BIOS and select water cooler or performance mode.

You don't say what motherboard you have but with the latest BIOS/driver updates there should be an Intel Default Settings option. This will set PL1 to 219 and PL2 to 65. Selecting a BIOS performance mode will as you have already found means exceeding the Intel default settings.

The key thing about PL2 is that it is time limited, typically most BIOS settings set a time limit of 56 seconds. So it is a short term boost. And it is PL2 that runs first, expires at the time limit and is replaced by PL1. The issue with some BIOS performance settings is that apart from not observing the Intel default PL2 setting they will also set a much higher PL1 limit. This can lead to excessive power consumption, higher CPU temps and potentially instability.

So broadly the Intel Default Settings are recommended, and in practice the benefit of performance modes outside of synthetic benchmarks can be little or nothing.

[Coffeelake]

I have the msi mag b760 tomahawk ddr4 wiffi with latest micro code. 

I did order a new cooler today the [ alphacool eisbaer aurora 360 cpu - digital rgb ]

In hope that it makes me able to up the wattage.

Currently using the Artic liquid freezer 2 240 

With this CPU cooler i put it on performance mode went to cinabench with HW monitor open saw it crawling up to 100c until it hits it and turn it off. 

im aware the freezer 2 240 isnt compatible with 14gen cpus even tho it works fine in 65w. 

Curious what the other cooler wil do. 

But you say leave it on 65w ? But am i than not missing out on allot of performance ? 

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There should be an  "Intel Default" option in the BIOS "CPU Lite Load Control" section.

[Coffeelake]

Hey,

At this current moment it is on INTEL DEFAULT in BIOS cuz thats the only setting my 240mm aio can handle. 

But with this default settings games still around 60c max 65c cuz i have a pretty big case NZXT Pubg h700 mid tower. 

But m getting a new cooler to maybe squeez out a bit more perfromance without making the CPU to HOT.

But if i see the other dude talking than he is saying leave it on DEFAULT en other people are saying put it on 120w etc etc.

What i wnne know what is de max turbo boost limit of this CPU is that for PL2 219w ? and PL1 ? 

My brain haha 

My plan was this put in new 360mm aio from alphacool. Set bios to performance disable AI CEP and maybe also GT CEP.

Run cinabench with HW monitor and see if it stays under 100c. and if it does hit 100c stop cina straight away. 

CEP disable is what msi themselves reccomend, i can also do a manual undervolt bye changing the offset to - but thats something i would only do if other options dont work out.

And than in case it does still run to hot at 253w see what 200w wil do if i set that in Intel extreme tuning techno

Is this alright or just plain stupid ? 

And from my understanding aslong as this CPU stays under 90c better 80c its fine right ??????

I mean my laptop Clevo PE60 i9 13900h is 90c [ heavy titles ] at all times when gaming and doesnt struggle one bit paired with 4070mobile

Depending on what games i play i put on trottlestop and than it stays under 75c

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It's up to you whether you stick to Intel Default Settings. In game temperatures around 60-65C are fairly normal. The reasons for the introduction of Intel Default Settings was that some board manufacturers were running performance settings as the default. This included things like setting PL1 to the same value as PL2, for your CPU 219w for both. Or even 253w for both. At least now there is a choice.

[Coffeelake]

Interessting, Yeah im not new to pc gaming i mean i had a gtx 1080 and a i7 4790k and a i7 9700 and i5 12400.

Im aware what normal decent or good tempratures are. im not paranoid if the CPU gets 85c in full load some would suggest keeping it under 70c but Most gamers with small cases dont even look at the temps they just play until it gos ill. 

I even had windows 98 

The Core i7-14700 has a base TDP (PL1) of 65 watts and a max turbo TDP (PL2) of 219 watts 

This is what intel states but does that mean its better to Set the Wattage to 219 in Intel extreme tuning util, than perhaps the performance mode 253w in bios or am i misinterpreting something. 

Cuz isnt it like if i select 253watt in bios it just extend the max boost to that wattage instead of keeping it there the whole time. 

But only gets there if the system thinks it needs it. 

Cuz for example if im in windows with 253w on my schitty current cooler everything works fine. No crashes it just gets to hot when running cinabench.

i had a few blue screens of death but they went to fast for me to see the error code. it happened after enabling XMP

And or it happend after i disabled GT CEP. 

With AI CEP disabled it went to hot but didnt crash at all. 

And now its running perfectly fine but this is on deffault with xmp disabled. ( with both cep enabled )

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> With this CPU cooler i put it on performance mode went to cinabench with HW monitor open saw it crawling up to 100c

> until it hits it and turn it off. 

Cinebench just pushes every core to the max and is not representative of any real life loading the CPU will encounter. The single core CB score is OK because it does attempt to measure basic core performance. The multicore option in my opinion is not useful since it generates excessive CPU temps.

> But you say leave it on 65w ? But am i than not missing out on allot of performance ? 

Test this on normal workloads like games. HWMONITOR will show core speeds and temps - compare the Intel Default Settings to the Performance mode.

[Coffeelake]

But i guess the idea is to get this CPU running in a stress test for atleast a Hour without it crashing some say 8 hours but im to impatient for that. 

But yes when my new 360w cooler wil be installed ill run back the tests and see whatsupp when it has a proper cooler. 

Thanks anyways. 

[Coffeelake]

I recieved my new cooler alpa cool icebear 360.

And it keeps my cpu under 90c at all times even at cinabench. 

I put lp1 and lp2 to 219w or 200w.

This together with smart fans in bios makes me run black ops at 75c without any issues.