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Hi,
So I've recently built a brand new gaming pc with the folllowing specs:
CPU: i7 - 14700kf
CPU Cooler: MSI 240mm Liquid Cooler
GPU: 4070
MB: Gigabyte B760 gaming x ax
RAM: DDR5 7000mz
PSU: 650w (yes its enough)
Everything has been working as it should, I had pretty much zero problems when I built it. Although I've noticed the cpu is behaving very differently to my prior i7 - 7700 cpu, firstly the temperature under load can range from 70c - 100c which I've read from other posts that it's fairly normal.
Now for the main annoyance, when i'm browsing youtube and I hover my cursor over a video it pops up with a little preview of the video and when I do this my cpu temperature spikes up crazy from 40c to 70-80+ in a second and that causes my liquid cooler fans to ramp up so loud and yes i've messed with the fan curves in the bios to make it smoother but yet it's still very disturbing. I've googled this issue multiple times with multiple people having the same issues and zero solutions found. My motherboard bios version is F5 and i believe theres newer bios versions but i've mostly found that people suggest leaving it if it works to avoid further issues.
And with the general temperature I originally bought this cpu cooler after I researched benchmark videos with my exact specs with their cpu temps being 58c-65c under heavy load while mine are 70-100. I must admit my case has a shut front panel with 2 pretty bad intake fans and then the 2 exhaust fans from the liquid cooler but I can't imagine that a new case with 3 intake fans at the front will make the big difference from 70-100 temps to 50-60 (might be wrong).
Just curious if anybody could share some knowledge or experience. Thanks
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@Trebor wrote:Hi,
Now for the main annoyance, when i'm browsing youtube and I hover my cursor over a video it pops up with a little preview of the video and when I do this my cpu temperature spikes up crazy from 40c to 70-80+ i.........
Does this happen with all browsers? like, did you test Edge, Firefox, Chrome? do all behave like that?
Have you tried anabling or dsabling hardware acceleration?
Seems that that seek-preview does use more power and the frequency goes high
Firefox: the green arrows show spikes in temperature and frequency
Chrome: exactly same video, but different behaviour, the seek-preview was working the quickest of all browsers
Edge: as expected had least power usage, frequency did spike only when i did that seek-preview thing
And with the general temperature I originally bought this cpu cooler after I researched benchmark videos with my exact specs with their cpu temps being 58c-65c under heavy load while mine are 70-100.
Define heavy load and duration. I guarantee you, that no one is getting less than 100°C on any water cooling, with no power limits.
The CPU will hit 100°C regardless.
65°C suggest a TDP limit at 125W..... which happens to be the TDP in intel specs.
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Chrome is my main browsing choice but I just tried Edge and weirdly it only spiked to 50-60 from idle at 40, for the first 5 videos (which was definitely managable in terms of fan noise) but sadly after a handful of videos of doing the preview thingy the spikes ramped up to the usual 70+ and the fan noise returned. Starting to feel its just youtubes problem and theres no way around it for this cpu, my previous cpu never had this problem even with how old it is. bit frustrating how this top end cpu has odd reactions to a simple process while my older one handled it easily.
As for the benchmark video i referred to, the "heavy load" was games such as red dead, cyberpunk, assassins creed... just very demanding games. I'm not 100% sure how TDP works but i assume it's just how much power your cpu can output and based on that the temperature output will vary depending on the amount of power its given, and in saying that i just checked that video again and i see that his c.power output is roughly about 100W and a steady temperature of sub 60c in all those demanding applications. So at the moment i'm a little bit confused as to how hes got those numbers since both out cpu's limit is 125W.
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@Trebor wrote:but sadly after a handful of videos of doing the preview thingy the spikes ramped up to the usual 70+ and the fan noise returned
sounds more like the liquid got kinda saturated with energy that it can not get rid of.
And there is no dust filter or some kind of mesh preventing the fans from achieving a good airflow?
I mean it is normal taht with time the liquid gets warmer leading to higher temps at the CPU, but just few videos should not be able to do that.
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The transient spikes from the P cores on the 13/14 series can only be tamed by direct-die methods, even doing so you'll see spikes in the 60s all day unless you're running an iceman2 custom loop. My Direct-die AIO still sees temps hit the 70s and 80s easily playing games. i could see you hitting 100.
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So how is this person getting 50-60c using a similar msi aio cooler in his benchmarks.
Video: https://youtu.be/dNlZqt1yEtc?si=5cdB3oU-aG8E9kvh&t=163
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His chip got much better silicon quality on the P cores, or he undervolted the CPU likely and didn't disclose that information to his audience. My though is the former, if he's an influencer, Intel strategically gives out golden samples to said people to shill and shine the best light possible on the product for all to see. If only they put that much effort into separating the bins for us and representing the silicon quality honestly...
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Sounds interesting, although because he's comparing an intel cpu to a amd cpu i dont think intel and amd themselves wouldve both coincidently sent him a golden sample to review in the same video thats very unlikely. Besides, the amd cpu hes reviewing in the video is pretty much doing just as good at the intel one temperature wise. Not to mention the amd chip is using roughly 20W less.
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@Norman_Trashboat wrote:His chip got much better silicon quality on the P cores, or he undervolted the CPU likely and didn't disclose that information to his audience. My though is the former, if he's an influencer, Intel strategically gives out golden samples to said people to shill and shine the best light possible on the product for all to see. If only they put that much effort into separating the bins for us and representing the silicon quality honestly...
at 100~120W temps in low 60°C would be rather something you expect to see, low 70s after like 20 minutes.
The question is, does the AIO in those tests in the video pulls warm air from the PC case, or is it actually blowing warm air to the PC case.
Or the radiator could be somewhere outside of the PC case too.
CPU stress test 5min duration, TDP 125W, room temp at 20°C, except different CPU and a bigger external radiator.
Temps were 50~60°C. I would assume at same TDP most CPUs would emit same mount of heat.
....Seeing how many users complain mostly/specifically about 14th CPU series, i would say there is a different problem here.
Maybe the guy in video had just a 'normal' CPU specimen?
Btw, you mentioned direct die, what idle temps are you getting, if i may ask?

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