Metastable

[jaylong]

I'm a beginner, and after designing an adder, I wanted to use SignalTap to check the synthesized signals. However, I found that the signals are not as expected. It seems to be due to metastability issues, causing the originally stable values to randomly switch between 0 and 1. How can I correct this issue?main modulecarry adder and adder200PLLsignal tap(pre-syn)

[FvM]

Hi,
does your design meet timing? If not (very likely it doesn't), why do you complain about unexpected results?

I'm not sure what you want to achieve, as a general rule:
- don't use clock as data
- don't use divided or phase shifted clocks, except for special purposes e.g. driving peripherals

[RichardTanSY_Intel]

I also suspect that the design may not meet the timing requirements. You can check out the document below for further information.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/docs/programmable/683082/21-3/managing-metastability-with-the-software-44819.html

Best Regards,

Richard Tan

[RichardTanSY_Intel]

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[jaylong]

"I recently discovered that there may be a 'bubble effect' issue. Originally, all the bits that haven't reached a carry should be 1, but it turns out there are a few 0s mixed in. I haven't resolved it yet."

[RichardTanSY_Intel]

 Could you help to share your design .qar file (Project> Achieve Project) so that we could investigate what goes wrong?

Best Regards,

Richard Tan

[jaylong]

Like this?

[RichardTanSY_Intel]

There is no SDC file in your design, so this is likely an issue with your design.

You can refer to this document on how to use SDC constraints:

Link: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/docs/programmable/683068/18-1/recommended-initial-sdc-constraints.html

You may also want to check out YouTube for resources related to timing analysis.

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6kf1_fSaIA

Best Regards,

Richard Tan

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[jaylong]

I'm using Timing Analyzer, and when I click on 'constraints' and then 'create clock' to set up my clock signals, after I finish and compile, my clock signals disappear. What could be the issue?

[RichardTanSY_Intel]

You might have written the constraints incorrectly, thus they are being ignored.

You can check the 'Report Ignored Constraints' and see if that's the case.

Best Regards,

Richard Tan

[jaylong]

"Report Ignored Constraints: No Ignored Constraints Found. By the way, I want to constrain the PLL clock. Should I set it individually, or should I use the 'derive PLL clocks' feature?

[RichardTanSY_Intel]

Technically, both methods are equivalent, but some users may modify their PLLs and forget to update their .sdc files. Therefore, I strongly recommend sticking with "derive_pll_clocks".

[FvM]

Hi,
I think besides using reasonable sdc statements, the test design should follow elementary FPGA design rules and get rid of using clock as data. Otherwise you hardly get meaningful results.

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