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Not getting the 3.3-V LVTTL and LVCOMS cyclone IV full range?

not_A_quitter
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Hi,

I’m using a cyclone IV FPGA (EP4CE55F23C8N) and I’m outputting a 48Mhz clock signal (generated by the internal PLLs) that feeds a microcontroller. The problem is I’m not getting the required 3.3 voltage level (using the 3.3-V LVTTL and LVCOMS), I get 1 vpp (peak to peak) on my oscilloscope.

I figured the problem is related to the FPGA current limiting circuitry. So I dabbled with lower voltage values like 3v,2.5v which offer higher current limits. But still I wasn’t able to squeeze out sufficiently high logic levels.  The best I got was around 1.4vpp. Also I activated the internal weak pull up resistor with no significant improvement from the voltage level standpoint.

Any thoughts on how I can generate the 3.3v full range.

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ak6dn
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What are the characteristics of your scope probe and input?

Is it a high impedance or 50ohm termination that you have on your probe?

What is the input bandwidth of your scope channel?

 

A CycloneIV with LVTTL or LVTTL 3.3V output should be able to drive a 4ma to 8ma load (depending on drive selected) 48MHz (20ns period) with a 2ns to 3ns rise/fall time pretty much rail to rail.

not_A_quitter
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You are right. I think the issue had to do with the probe bandwidth as a function of the probe multiplier. I had my probe set to x1 multiplier (no amplification no attenuation) which reduces the BW to 5Mhz according to probe the datasheet. By setting the probe to x10 i get 100Mhz BW.  I did my measurements (pic attached) i got 400~500mVpp which translates to 5vpp after accounting for the probe multiplier.WhatsApp Image 2022-11-22 at 7.25.31 AM.jpeg 

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Fakhrul
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Hi not_A_quitter,


I hope the above ak6dn's suggestion may have addressed your question.

Do you have any further questions on this matter?

Else, I would like to have your permission to close this forum ticket so this thread will be transitioned to community support.


If you have a new question, feel free to open a new thread to get support from Intel experts. Otherwise, the community users will continue to help you on this thread. Thank you


Regards,

Fakhrul



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not_A_quitter
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No I have no further question. My problem is solved. Thank you for your support.

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