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idata
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Can't use SSD Toolbox on my X25-M ??

Hello,

I have just setup my new computer with Win7 installed on a WD Velociraptor 300GB and an intel SSD X25-M 160GB where I installed Flight Simulator. When I first launched Windows 7, it did not show my SSD in "My Computer" and I had to go to "Disk Management" to select the SSD Drive and "activated" it in NTFS. Now everything seems fine.

Now, I wanted to instal the SSD Toolbox to optimize my drive. In the bios, all SATA drives are set with IDE. Unfortunately, when I launcg the SSD Toolbox, it says that the SSD drive is not compatible with the tool..... what's going on ?

Thank you

Greg

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idata
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It needs Ahci mode.

idata
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.... but everybody says they changed their BIOS to IDE ?

I f I really need to change my BIOS settings to AHCI, will this affect anthing in my installation or is it really safe to change the BIOS settings to AHCI ? Also, do I have to keep it to AHCI all the time ? Nothing toi change in Win7 ?

Thank you

idata
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I have just my BIOS settings to AHCI (after having modify the Win7 registryaccordingl). My computer runs fine but STILL, the toolbow says "this tool is not supported on the selected drive"......

idata
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I dont know, maybe there is a problem with the toolbox too. Anyway with windows 7 you dont need the toolbox. Trim is supposed to work automatically.

Have you updated to the new firmware?

idata
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Actually I have just bought new components and have connected my SSD to a SATA port like my 2 other standard HDD. I have only "activated the SSD" in Windows7 because at the first start of the PC it did not show in "My Computer".... On the box, it says that the SSD manufacture date is Aug2009 and I did not update any firmware... I don't even know if Win7 recognize it as a SSD.... What shall I do ?

Thank a lot

idata
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Don't do anything then. Everything you say is normal. Just wait for a new firmware in order to enable trim...

idata
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But howcome I am the only one in the world who can't run this Intel Tool on my SSD drive.... How come it says "tool not supported".. ?

idata
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I believe it's due to the fact that everyone else has updated to the new firmware...which was then cancelled. So again dont worry. I would be really happy to be in your situation.

idata
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When I first launched Windows 7, it did not show my SSD in "My Computer" and I had to go to "Disk Management" to select the SSD Drive and "activated" it in NTFS.

This is perfectly normal for most newly installed drives, SSD or mechanical.

But howcome I am the only one in the world who can't run this Intel Tool on my SSD drive.... How come it says "tool not supported".. ?

You already answered your own question...

I did not update any firmware...

TRIM is not supported unless you have the latest firmware.

Intel have pulled the new firmware amidst reports that it is bricking drives. Be patient and I'm sure we will have news soon. Even for those of us who are running the latest firmware, there is always that nagging doubt that it is going to screw the hardware so we are all in the same boat to some extent.

I'd recommend that you keep your controller in AHCI mode also. Some people would have had to run the firmware updater in IDE mode. It does not mean that this is necessary for normal operation.

idata
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Thank you very much for your comprehensive answer... However, I have launched FSX on my SSD as usual and it took for ever to launch...... therefore, I have rechanged the MSAHCI registry in Win7 to "START 3" and revert back to IDE in Bios and my program start quick again...... Do you know why the programs takes much longer to launch in AHCI mode ? Can I do anything about that ? If not, what's the point of changing to this mode ?

Thanks again

idata
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At the moment, you are using the SSD only for FSX, right? So you might want to keep controller in AHCI, go back into disk management and delete the drive then re-create the logical drive under AHCI. Will take less than a minute.

AHCI is required to enable many of the SATA specific commands. IDE mode is used mainly when you have compatibility issues.

You can run into problems when you change controller modes without rebuilding / refromatting drives, particularly when popping in and out of RAID.

idata
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Ok thanks will try that. BTW, when you select AHCI in Bios, it affects all hard drives (you can't just select AHCI only for the SSD) , right ?

idata
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You are correct. AHCI is a controller setting, and affects all devices attached to that controller.

You are also, for the time being, best off using the Microsoft generic AHCI drivers instead of the Intel drivers.

idata
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That is correct. It will affect all drives on the system. Best to start with AHCI or RAID when installing drives / OS. I only use IDE mode myself with certain DOS boot disk HDD tools for disabling (or enabling) low level commands such as acoustic management and the like. If you do find yourself having to run under IDE mode for firmware updates or tweaking commands it's good idea to pop back into BIOS after you have finished and set the controller to AHCI / RAID before the OS boots. That way the OS remains blissfully unaware that a change was ever made.

idata
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Well, since I have already installed my OS on my Western Digital Velociraptor and my game (FSX) on my intel x25-M SSD, the way I should proceed is :

1- change registry in Windows MSAHCI "START- value0" instead of "3". Then go to BIOS and select SATA AHCI instead of IDE. Then I have to recreate the SSD drive in the Disk Management as explained by you Ziggy. Is that the good sequence ?

Thank you guys for your precious help,

Greg

idata
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That sounds like a plan, cassis. Let us know what it means for performance - I'm really curious!

And while I'm curious: You opted to use your HDD as your boot drive. It's a highly unusual choice - most people will use the SSD for faster boot time and faster application launch. How'd you come to that decision? Was it driven by wanting the fastest drive for FSX?

idata
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Well this is just me, but I'd be tempted (no scratch that, I'd be chomping at the bit) to re-install the OS and use the SSD as the boot drive and run the flight sim from the VR, which is more than up to the task. You'll notice a boost in performance just by running FSX from a second drive alone.

But, as a quick fix yes, try recreating the logical drive with the controller in AHCI mode. What would be useful to know however, is if you installed the OS on the VR using AHCI? Windows is not very tolerant about mode changes, and the more you do this, you risk messing up the boot drive also. There is no point as far as I can see to use the IDE mode with your system on the OS level.

I have a VR myself and it is a very good drive but after seeing the SSD perfom (and wipe the floor with it) it is now a lowly backup drive along with a page file, scratch disk and internet cache. My own games run from a pair of striped Raptors, and for me at least, I have no gripes about load times.

I wouldn't be too concerned about the SSD Toolbox. You don't need it at this stage as your SSD currently does not support TRIM and even then you would only require it if you wanted to run TRIM manually or on a schedule. I have no option but to use it since my controller is in RAID mode and have to TRIM on a schedule. AHCI with the Win 7 default drivers (as opposed to IMSM) should see TRIM running happily in the background without any input required on your part, when you are able to update the firmware of course.

idata
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Well actually, since FSX is a really demanding software if you consider the thousands of texture files to be loaded, I decided to run it from a SSD.... and launch time is dfaster than before with probably better graphics... Also, I'd rather keep the OS on a traditionnal drive (a VR is still the best on the market) to safeguard my system..

I'll do that changes and will let you know.... and as soon as the new firmware is released by Intel, I'll install it of course.

Will come back soon with the results.... thanks

idata
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It all depends on the invidual needs of course and until recently I was an avid flight simmer with many years in Falcon 4. Of course the best results will probably be obtained having FSX on the fastest drive, and I do realise it is a resource hunrgy application but it will still be making demands on the OS so it's maybe something to consider next time you decide to (or have to) re-install Windows. If you use your rig primarily for the flight sim then yes, it might make sense to leave it as is, but if it's more of a jack of all trades in terms of usage then booting from SSD is a worthy alternative.

and as soon as the new firmware is released by Intel, I'll install it of course.

Brave! Although my own update went well (so far...) after seeing so many reports of bricked drives, I may not be in such a hurry next time around. : )

Hope you manage to sort out the drive!