just picked up the intel 510 SSD (250GB) looking to see what i need to do to get running
is there any new firmware out for it, etc that wouldn't come on the drive?
this is my first Intel SSD.. last one I had was OCZ and their forum had a list of tweaks/ options for windows to mess with to speed things up a bit... does the Intel community have the same offering?
Any input on defect rates? Its the only reason why I'm switching brands (too many dieing ssd from ocz)
It ships with the latest firmware. Install the Intel SSD Toolbox and it will perform the recommended tweaks for you.
As for failure rates, companies do not make these numbers public.
However, have a look here: http://communities.intel.com/thread/20014?tstart=0 http://communities.intel.com/thread/20014?tstart=0
DuckieHo, you the same guy registered on OCN and EVGA forums? Damn I see u everywhere lol (aka XFreeRollerX)
I saw the return rates with Intel having the lowest of them... pretty interesting, but is this just SSD or is it their CPU/Mobos too? it just says "PC component return rates"... I would think return rates on processors are very low, somewhat skewing this statistic if it is an encompassing statistic..
the toolbox..what does it do if u dont mind my asking?
also I dont see the 510 in the download center, would it be different for the 310?
also; have a laugh at this
Read the whole article from BeHardware, it explains everything already.
The SSD Toolbox allows you to view SMART values, clean the SSD, set the Window tweaks, and allow you to secure erase.
All the SSD Toolbox are the same. I already informed Intel that they are missing the link at the Download Center.
I got the same problem with speed, althoguh I installed my 510 series 250gb (into PCI-Ex16) a ASrock SATA3 card 6GB, it still don't get any speeds higher than if it was connected the drive to a SATA2 port, on my Asus Fomula II motherboard.
Hi,anyone able yet to figure out why Intel ssd 510 250 gb is shown as "unconfigured" during booting ?
It is connected to serial ATA6 gb port1 on an ASUS P8P67 Deluxe revision3
Yet shows performance as 1,5Go only...is this normal ?
I have installed the toolbox,but its of no use whatever,cannot configuer anything with it,
and cannot download latest firmware,
in fact,Intel software support is so complicated and confusing,after downloading a mass of useless Intel nonsense,my ssd 510 is no faster or more responsive than an old generation HDD.
WTF gives ??????
Just got a very helpful reply from Intel support:
Thank you for your email.
As mentioned in my previous correspondence, a new firmware has not yet been released; nevertheless this does not preclude our production line from manufacturing new products with new firmware that will be released in the near future.
So, in short, they now changed their answer form "there is no" to "there is, you will not get it". Come on people, it's been released to production more than 3 months ago.
carpland, Your results with the 510 are strange. I have an ASUS P67 mother board, and a 120GB 510, and it works great. My 510 has the PPG4 firmware. Here's one benchmark.
The unconfigured thing you mention is seen where? In the EFI? A message when the PC boots?
Do you have your 510 on the Intel SATA 6Gb/s port? If you have it in the Marvell ports, that could explain your performance problems. Other things to check is if you're in AHCI mode, which is the default mode for the Intel SATA interface on ASUS P67 boards. What SATA driver are you using? ASUS provides the Intel IRST driver, which will install fine in AHCI mode, or could be used set to RAID, but just as a single non-RAID set drive. I would be surprised if the standard Windows msahci driver would perform so poorly.
What did you download from Intel besides the Toolbox that is so confusing and worthless? Something is basically wrong with your setup it seems, new firmware will not solve your problem. What is showing you poor performance?
The SSD Toolbox is not intended to configure a SSD, just to check it and keep it healthy.
I have an ASUS P8P67 with 2600K CPU and Intel 120GB 510 SSD. I get the same atto test results as you, but the "controlled by" and description are blank. Also on bootup I get the message "no hard drive found" BIOS is version 1502.
tim, The "No hard drive found" message you're seeing is from the Marvell 9120 SATA controller starting, and since you're not using it (I assume) you see the message about no hard drives. That's normal, I get that too. You can disable that controller in the UEFI and that screen won't display during boot. I know it happens so quickly you can't read it very well, and your attention is drawn to that message, rather than the text at the top, which shows it's the Marvell controller.
The text in ATTO is just info that they allow you to enter yourself, so you can identify what drive was tested when you save the test results. Start ATTO and click on those fields, you can enter whatever you like. Sorry to worry you about that, I discovered this option by chance, and used it.
Good to know you get the same results as I did with the 510.
I wonder what happened to the other guy and his problems...
Thanks for the reply. I realized after that I could enter stuff into the blank space.
I'll try disabling the Marvell controller in the bios, since I am using only the SSD and an HD on the other SATA 6 connector.
Which brings a question - I'm not using RAID and the Intel Matrix Storage manager and Intel Raid/ICP Storport driver are auto loaded. Do I need to load these or would it make any difference either way ?
I'd be surprised if you still see the Marvell controller starting after you disable it. All it was doing was warning you that no drives were attached, which you know, so it's not a problem.
The Intel RAID/AHCI driver for our boards and others is called Intel Rapid Storage Technology (IRST), and the latest version of that is on the download pages, Version 10.5.0.1026. That is the best driver for SSD performance, whether used in RAID or AHCI mode, either mode is fine. I would keep that one if I were you, I certainly use it. The Intel Matrix driver is older and provided for older chipsets and boards, but you might just be mixing up the names. If you are using Matrix now, I would recommend using IRST from the ASUS download page for your board.
I don't know what the ICP Storport driver is, unless you have an add-on card that uses it. Any idea where that came from? I don't see it in any of the drivers provided for your board by ASUS.
I disabled the Marvell controller and now it doesn't show anything on bootup.
The file I have in C:\Windows\system32\drivers is iaStorV.sys version 188.8.131.524 - Intel Matrix Storage Manager driver, original file name iastor.sys.
On the ASUS DVD in the raid drivers folder is: iaStor.sys version 10.1.0.1008 I guess the shop that installed Windows for me didn't add it.
I just downloaded the file: irst_10501026_XPVistaWin7.zip from ASUS. If I install it, I assume it will replace the current driver. I also see there is a 10.6 version on the Intel download page. Would it install correctly, or should I stick with the ASUS installer?
I researched the Intel Raid/ICP Storport driver, file name iirsp.sys, and it seems it comes from Microsoft. Maybe your Windows didn't add it. It's only 43K, but I could see if it's necessary.
You're very likely correct that the shop installed the older version of the Intel RAID driver. The Intel RAID/AHCI drivers almost always work when downloaded from their web site, but it's safest to use the one from your mother board manufacture. You should use the one you downloaded from ASUS, that is very recent and will replace the one you have now. The driver file name will be the same, but if you check the version it will be the one you downloaded.
Microsoft does supply a RAID driver in Windows 7 which I've never used or even seen frankly, the Storport must be it. I've never seen it discussed, since MS also supplies their msahci AHCI driver. No need to do anything with it, it will be replaced or just be hanging around if it is ever needed.
You're welcome, but I don't know if I really helped you very much. You really didn't have any big problem to start with.
If you check the ASUS forum for you board, or most any other mother board forum that uses the Marvell chipsets, you'll likely see complaints about it. It seems that the Marvell driver (on your boards download page) is not very good, some users have all kinds of problems with that interface. There are a few new drivers for these chips, but many times they aren't included on the boards download page. You can use the Windows 7 msahci driver with it, and it seems to work better. The Intel RAID driver will not work with the Marvell chip. You can of course experiment with it, but I wouldn't put your OS drive on it unless you feel it works Ok. It will never be faster or equal to the Intel 6Gb/s SATA ports. Good luck with your SSD and board!
The Intel RAID/AHCI driver for our boards and others is called Intel Rapid Storage Technology (IRST), and the latest version of that is on the download pages, Version 10.5.0.1026. That is the best driver for SSD performance, whether used in RAID or AHCI mode, either mode is fine.
parsec I have the DH67GD board and Intel 510 120Gb SSD, and under IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers (device mgr) I show multiple ATA Channel 0-x, each of which is a MS driver, and one entry of "Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 6 Port SATA AHCI Controller - 1C02" version Intel 9/10/2010 184.108.40.2061.
Are you saying that despite that my PC has only the SSD and a BD-ROM drive, no RAID needed or planned, that I should install the IRST drivers? If yes, is it obvious when installing that driver just how to select AHCI mode and not RAID?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
tomf, It's really not a requirement or something you should do for a specific reason, besides the potential for better performance. Virtually all SSD testing done by PC hardware review web sites use the Intel RST RAID/AHCI driver since they have found them to provide the best performance with SSDs (that's with Intel chipsets, of course.)
The SATA mode, whether RAID, AHCI, or even IDE is not chosen or set during the installation of the driver. That is an option in the BIOS. Many mother boards for the Intel Sandy Bridge CPUs and their chipsets, like your H61, have the SATA mode set to AHCI by default in the BIOS. My ASUS P67 board's default SATA mode is AHCI. Most if not all earlier mother boards had the SATA mode set to IDE, and changing it to AHCI and installing the AHCI driver took a little preparation or work to accomplish. Having the default mode of AHCI makes things much easier.
But, I don't know if Intel is doing this with their mother boards. As it seems you've never checked it, you'll need to check it in your BIOS. Your boards manual will tell you how to get into the BIOS and might say which section to check. It's probably in the Advanced section under SATA Mode or Storage.
If it is set to AHCI now, great, just leave it alone. If not, remember what it is set to but don't change it yet, you'll need some instructions on a little fix to make it work correctly. If it's not AHCI, let me know.
Assuming it is set to AHCI, then you currently have the Windows msahci driver loaded, which happened automatically during your Windows installation. It works fine and is good, but if you want that last bit of performance from your SSD, you can install the Intel IRST driver. As well as being required for RAID, it also provides excellent AHCI performance. The main thing AHCI gives you is Native Command Queuing (NCQ), which allows a SSD to perform multiple reads or writes at the same time. IDE mode does not support NCQ, which is why SSD owners need AHCI. The msahci driver provides NCQ, which is why you don't require the Intel IRST driver.
If you download and install IRST, which is easy to do, afterward the driver shown for the Intel 6 Series/C200... SATA AHCI Controller should be "iastor". Frankly, I am not certain what those other two SATA entries are for, and I have them on my PC too.