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MBuda
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X25-M 2.5" Latching SATA Connector?

Does anyone know if the X25-M drives contain the proper connectors to latch with locking SATA cables? Since this drive is useful for high shock and vibration applications (solid state after all), we need to use the locking type cables with them. I poured through the data specifications and didn't see any reference to latching connectors. Many competitive products have them.........

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idata
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by locking SATA cables, do you mean ones typically like Gigabyte's cables in the top-left of this picture? : http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2009/05/gigabyte-ga-ma790fxt-ud5p-review/cables-8.jpg

idata
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Yes, you can use the latch-type locking connectors as shown here: http://www.satagear.com/SATA_Internal_Cables.html http://www.satagear.com/SATA_Internal_Cables.html

idata
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idata
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Just a quick (silly) question. I presume that both the data and power ports have a latching variety. I can only seem to find latching data cables, not power cables.

Thanks in advance.

idata
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I never looked for latching power cables, power cables in the sense of connecting to a power supply, which does seem kind of silly. Anyway, the power cable going to power supply has a 3-prong connection and totally different than those data cables you refer to, which get connected to the motherboard.

Are you talking about the power cable going from power supply to the wall (AC) or battery backup? If not, I don't know what you mean by power cables, unless you are talking about cables from power supply that get connected to motherboard? Ah, that must be it, right? Well, I haven't seen those in latching form, and they come with the power supply from manufacturer. There really isn't a need for latching on those cables, but it is the HDDs and SSDs that are more prone to getting disconnected so latching cables are a good idea for them, as well as DVD drives,etc.

idata
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Yes perhaps the question isn't so silly - Presumably if there are latching data cables there would need to be a latching power connection or at least an adapter? My drive will be mounted in an enclosure with several other components and will be powered from a custom power supply. I would really like to avoid glueing everything together but a good data connections for my X25 SSD is really useless unless I can partner it with a solid power connection. Any ideas? (apart from glue!)

idata
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Are you talking about the SATA power cable going from PSU to SSD?

idata
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Yes exactly or at least a cable that can be connected to a separate power source/4 pin plug etc. Basically I think the latching data cable is great. Do you agree that I would need a similar solution for the SSD power supply. From the PSU or otherwise? I think that I would need a similar solution.

idata
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The power cable going from my PSU to SSD fits quite securely and I do not see any need for latching.

MBuda
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The reason for my original posted question is because we require both the data and power cables to latch to the SSD due to specific UL approval agency requirements. Most HDD's on the market today accept latching cables and I was hoping the same would be true for the X25-M. As you have seen, there are SATA data cables with the latching clip in the market and there are latching power cables as well (notice the two small bumps on the spring latch that lock into holes in SSD connector housing?):

idata
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Yes that is really what I was looking for. That type of adapter. Thanks again.

idata
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I'd say it does, my latching cable makes a click noise when I push it in, sorry I can't offer definative proof.

idata
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Yes the G2(silver) X-25M's have latching SATA connectors. THe G1(black) did not.

MBuda
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My drive is a G1, I guess: SSDSA2SH032G1GN. I think that the SLC drives are G1 and the MLC drives are G2, correct? If so, it is interesting that the SLC drives don't have locking connectors.

Thanks to all of those who replied. We are an OEM and this feature is required for our future applications. Thanks to all that gave the effort to respond!

idata
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I haven't seen G1 drive connections, but I don't see why a drive that uses standard drive connection cannot use latching connectors as the ones I linked to above. You should check this out by buying one of those very inexpensive latching connectors before giving up. Every drive I've had that used standard connectors also used latching connectors as I showed in the link above.

idata
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I contacted a retailer who sells the SATA latching cables and was told they do work with G1 drives. You can contact them as well if you need further confirmation. All SATA drives use the same type of connection and I don't see why it wouldn't work for you. http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=34_348_353 http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=34_348_353

MBuda
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Thanks for your message. I want to make sure we are on the same page - it's not that I want the connector to just work with the drive, I need it to latch! The locking cables that you reference, will function with both latching and non-latching mates (on drives). But, if the drive doesn't have the two little holes for the latching cable to engage with, then the cable will not be as secure. In fact, the SLC drive that I got at the end of last year will not "lock" with a latching cable as you have shown (I have many of them). From the other post, it appears that the MLC version of the drives have the correct latching connectors.

idata
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I understand and we are on the same page. I contacted the retailer as stated above and was told they work with all SATA drives--and that is all I know. As I stated above, you can contact the retailer for further confirmation, unless you are positive it doesn't work.

People just don't buy latching cables unless they intend to use them as such. When I asked the retailer if they work with Intel SSD G1 drives, I was told they do.

mmokk
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mb50309 wrote:

Thanks for your message. I want to make sure we are on the same page - it's not that I want the connector to just work with the drive, I need it to latch! The locking cables that you reference, will function with both latching and non-latching mates (on drives). But, if the drive doesn't have the two little holes for the latching cable to engage with, then the cable will not be as secure. In fact, the SLC drive that I got at the end of last year will not "lock" with a latching cable as you have shown (I have many of them). From the other post, it appears that the MLC version of the drives have the correct latching connectors.

 

no, g1 x25-m's will also NOT lock with latch-type cables.
mmokk
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mb50309 wrote:

My drive is a G1, I guess: SSDSA2SH032G1GN. I think that the SLC drives are G1 and the MLC drives are G2, correct?

slc drives are ssdsa2sh, mlc drives are ssdsa2mh. the g1 or g2 after the capacity refer to the drive generation. intel has not manufactured second generation slc drives, so all of their slc drives are g1. mlc nand has been used in both drive generations. none of the g1 drives are capable of achieving positive lock with latching sata connectors.

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