Programmable Resolutions in X3000 (G965)?

[rofish]

I heard that the resolutions in the new X3000 are programmable, but how programmable? Nvidia cards allow pixel-independant resolutions on DVI (but not VGA) on 6 and 7 series, and DVI and VGA on ATI's X1k series. Most importantly, will it support 1366x768. Not 1360x768 and not 1368x768, but exactly 1366x768?

[nferguson67]

Hi Archibael.
Sorry if this is the wrong bit to post to, but I couldn't find the right bit.

Reading through all the posts, I see you're the man, so I was hoping you might help me.

I have an HP D7700 that uses the Q965 chipset.
I am using an IIyama prolite 2200ew.
I am running Vista Business.

I ran moninfo, but it would not give the EDID info.
Do you have the correct hex string for this model.

Much appreciated if you can help.

Regards

[Aaron_B_Intel]

Didn't find that one in a quick search; I found the E2200WS... is that what you meant?

If so, and you're looking for 1680x1050, I found an EDID grabbed through Linux; try

21 39 90 30 62 1A 27 40 68 B036 00 D9 28 11 00 00 1C

[jmes2]

Archibael,

What entry am i looking for in the registry for me to check what went thru????

Thanks

[Aaron_B_Intel]

You want do a Find on

DTD_2

Its just a possibility, really; I'm a bit worried yours may be a BIOS issue, which would be very sad.

[jmes2]

Archibael,

I did the seach in the registry and found all four DTD's (see previous post). What is your suggestion now?

Is there something else i'm doing wrong?

Thnaks

[Aaron_B_Intel]

Nope. It's your BIOS.

In the Modes Removal Table of your BIOS, Toshiba has specified that 1280x720 (as well as 1280x768) shall not be available to you. Why they have done this is a mystery to me, except that possibly they fear you would attempt to make your laptop screen run at 1280x720/768 and break something.

You can contact them and ask why they have done this, and perhaps they will fix the problem.

[Aaron_B_Intel]

You could also try 1232x696, which I've seen advocated for your monitor. Since it's not 1280x720, it will possibly slip past the restrictions.

03,1F,D0,B0,41,B8,64,20,70,80,D5,08,00,00,00,00,00,1C

Seems like it's too stupid to work, but it's worth a shot, anyway.

[jmes2]

Archibael,

It worked!!!!!!!! Thanks for all your help to all my questions.

1232x696 works great. Funny how these things work.

Best regards.

[Aaron_B_Intel]

Very crazy that actually worked. I think you've established the new best known method for getting around the BIOS restrictions.

[ab2]

Hello archibael,

maybe you can help me too. I am using an 946GZ Expressandthe Viewsonic Display with 1680x1050 (ViewSonicVG2030WM). In the registry I have added the following values posted for the ViewSonic2235WM:

1C,39,90,30,62,1A,27,40,68,B0,36,00,DA,28,11,00,00,1E,37,01

this is working fine and I can display the resolution of 1680x1050 now perfectly, but there is still a little problem with the font. The fonts are sometimes flickering slightly, I think there is some different values for the ViewSonicVG2030WM. Unfortunately MonInf did not get me the information of the Monitor Raw EDID base.

I would appreciate very much if you could tell me which parameters I should try to modify.

Thank's for all your help here!

Best Greetings, Armin

[Aaron_B_Intel]

Found a thread that claims they had a Modeline for your monitor reported by MonInfo:

"1680x1050" 146.250 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync

Which results in

21,39,90,30,62,1A,27,40,68,B0,36,00,00,00,00,00,00,1C,37,01

Only differences between that setting and the one you used already seem to be the dot clock and the sync. You can try this, but I wouldn'tbe surprised if the other settings worked better.

[ab2]

Hello archibael,

thank you for your fast answer! You are right, the result with the DTD youfound is even worse, the flickering is stronger?? Where can I find the exactDTD or do I need to modify something else? I am using Vista Business and I do the modification directly in the registry:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE --SYSTEM --CONTROLSET 001 -- CONTROL -- CLASS -- {4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} -- 0000 --- DTD 5

Please let me know if you have any idea which DTD value I should modify.

Thank you!!

Best,

Armin

[Aaron_B_Intel]

Doesn't matter which DTD you modify-- 1 through 5, it's all the same, and will hopefully show up as individual resolutions on the menu.

If you want to play around, I'd tweak the third from last value (1C) to 1A, 1E, 18 to cover all the sync options.

If that's unhelpful, try messing with the pixel clock. PowerStrip would be the best way to do this,but you could try tweaking the first value (21) up and down a bit.

Sorry I can't be more helpful than that. Without the monitor in front of me it's hard to judge when improvement is attained.

[ab2]

Hello archibael,

thank you for your last answer and the Informations on the values, I will play arround with them and let you knowthe resultswithin the next days.

Infinite thanks foryour precious help posted here!!!

Best,

Armin

[Intel_Software_Netw1]

We heard from a user today whosuccessfully applied Archibael's solution to resolvehis problem on a HP DC7700 with an HP L2045W monitor.The userprovided the information to HP as well, since apparentlythis is a commonly reportedproblem.

Thanks, Archibael!

==

Lexi S.

IntelSoftware NetworkSupport

http://www.intel.com/software

Contact us

[Aaron_B_Intel]

I'm glad to help, Lexi. Hopefully you can elevate the consumer concerns to the graphics drivers folks so they can build custom resolutions into some subsequent driver release.

Rgds,

AB

[ogmaxify]

archibael,

Excellent job with the writeup's and solutions,

You like challenges, kinda like me.

Unfortunately, my challenge isnt getting anywhere. To get straight to the point, I'm trying to get a resolution of 1920x1080p on WindowsVista Ultimate64. I have the new HP dv9500t laptop with the X3100 chipset by Intel and a Samsung 40" LCD 1080p HDTV. My connection is using a SVGA cable. My max resolution I can get right now according to powerstrip is 1600x1200, which makes everything on the screen like an oval, not a circle.

Now, with my previous laptop, I had an ATI x600 and I attained that resolution quite easily (1920x1080). btw, this is the native resolution of the LCD.

Ok, so I have read pretty much all your posts & your article on this website and your posts on Entech's website.

Starting off, I was following your article here on the Intel Website and tried a couple different programs to get the EDID from the LCD, including MonInfo, no luck whatsoever.

I have Powerstrip 3.75 and played around with it for the longest and I still didnt get no luck with the 1920x1080 resolution. I tried creating a custom monitor driver as someone had mentioned it somewhere, and because windows recognizes it as a non-PnP monitor. That didn't work.

There was one thing that I noticed and that was the custom resolutions under Advanced Timings, now I was able to get quite some information from this.

This is what I got from the "copy and paste" timings:

PowerStrip timing parameters:
1600x1200=1600,64,192,304,1200,15,3,32,161828,512

Generic timing details for 1600x1200:
HFP=64 HSW=192 HBP=304 kHz=75 VFP=15 VSW=3 VBP=32 Hz=60

VESA detailed timing:
PClk=161.83 H.Active=1600 H.Blank=560 H.Offset=48 HSW=192 V.Active=1200 V.Blank=50 V.Offset=15 VSW=3

Linux modeline parameters:
"1600x1200" 161.828 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1215 1218 1250 +hsync +vsync



To just test something out, I tried the 1920x1080 in Powerstrip and got the timings and what not and I coded it to the bytes and created a DTD, now I tested it and followed your article, and reinstalled the drivers and I noticed a few extra working resolutions appeared, like 1280x1024 which turned out to be the working max resolution. Now 1920x1080 had appeared but it didnt work. On my TV, it said "Not Supported Mode",

this is what I used:

PowerStrip timing parameters:
1920x1080=1920,88,48,144,1080,4,5,36,148500,1

Generic timing details for 1920x1080:
HFP=88 HSW=48 HBP=144 kHz=68 VFP=4 VSW=5 VBP=36 Hz=60

VESA detailed timing:
PClk=148500.00 H.Active=1920 H.Blank=280 H.Offset=72 HSW=48 V.Active=1080 V.Blank=45 V.Offset=4 VSW=5

Linux modeline parameters:
"1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2056 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync

PClk=148500 3A02
H.Active=1920 780
H.Blank=280 118
V.Active=1080 438
V.Blank=45 02D
H.Offset=72 048
HSW=48 030
V.Offset=4 04
VSW=5 05

02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,48,30,45,00,00,00,00,00,00,1E


archibael, i appreciate any help, I'm kinda the person who likes to just keep trying till I figure it out, but I believe I've done almost everything, i hope i explained it well.

[Aaron_B_Intel]

Powerstrip "VESA" reports are wrong with a capital 'R". They're reporting 72 for the H. Offset, really it's 88. Doing the subtraction from the Linux Modeline is safest. That said, it may not help you to fix it, but it's worth a try:

02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,30,45,00,00,00,00,00,00,1E

However, those are the generic timings, I think, and thus not specific to your monitor, so again I'm not sure it's going to make a difference. It's also possible the HP is forbidding 1080p in the BIOS; can you point me to a link to the HP site for the BIOS you have installed in your laptop? I can examine it with some tools and find out if it's specifically excluding any.

Which model Samsung are you running?

I assume you're referring to the VGA cable and not the SVideo cable-- I swear, I'm not assuming you're a moron, but I have to check...

[ogmaxify]

thanks for the reply, I guess that was my mistake, but I just thought Id give it a try, I just finisihed trying the new DTD, and it didnt work, the LCD said "Not Supported Mode".

Here is the link:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareList?os=2100&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=3369393〈=en

Although, since this notebook was just released, I saw no BIOS, is there a way
maybe I could extract it for you?


Yes, I am using a VGA cable, it just says SVGA on the box.

I have the Samsung LN-S4095DX (LN-S4095 series).

thanks again.

[moxyjeero]

Hi archibael

Thanks for your great work!! I have a MS Vista Sony notebook and a HP 20" widescreen lcd monitor. I followed your method and was able to display 1676x1048 (1680x1050 just wont work, like you said earlier maybe its the BIOS).

Everything worked just fine until I tried to play some DVD movies, bothWin media player and InterDVD complained with th error C00D116A.Im guessing there has something to do with DRM. Could you please help on this issue? Thanks in advance.

[Aaron_B_Intel]

ogmaxify,

Okay, the BIOS things not important anyway; if my brain werent on this vacation Id have thought of that earlier. I think the Intel video is driving what youre telling it to, the problem is your Samsung is stingy (no EDID, or at any rate too-slow EDID response) and picky (Not supported resolution).:)

Buried in your manual is some info about using the Samsung with a PC, and its saying it was tested with a pixel clock of 138.5 MHz, which is way different from the timings weve been trying. I couldnt find timings for your particular monitor at 1080p, but I did find some 1080p at 138.5MHz pixel clock for another Samsung monitor (DLP)lets hope it shares some circuitry:

# From EDID

# Modeline "1920x1080" 138.5 1920 1968 2000 2080 1080 1083 1088 1111 +hsync -vsync

# Remove "Noise"

# Modeline "1920x1080" 138.50 1920 1968 2004 2096 1080 1083 1088 1103 +hsync -vsync

# Move left

# Modeline "1920x1080" 138.50 1920 1976 2012 2096 1080 1083 1088 1103 +hsync -vsync

# Move down

Modeline "1920x1080" 140.09 1920 1980 2016 2096 1080 1082 1087 1115 +HSync -VSync

Converting to DTD, we have:

From EDID

1A,36,80,A0,70,38,1F,40,30,20,35,00,00,00,00,00,00,1A

Remove Noise

1A,36,80,B0,70,38,17,40,30,24,35,00,00,00,00,00,00,1A

Move Left

1A,36,80,B0,70,38,17,40,38,24,35,00,00,00,00,00,00,1A

Move Down

B9,36, 80,B0,70,38,23,40,3C,24,25,00,00,00,00,00,00,1A

Tack on our customary ,37,01 to the end and give those a shot in the .INF file, though that last one looks like an unlikely candidate.

Hope this helps you.