Issues with Frametime Stability, Frame Gen (and Missing XeSS Upscaling, FG) in GTA V Enhanced Online

[bani1o7]

In GTA V Enhanced I noticed a few issues. When I enter online mode and the lobby is crowded, I usually get poor frametime stability with the B580. That would not be too bad on its own, since the CPU is naturally under more load with lots of activity and I could work around it by using Frame Generation.

However, here is the second problem: when I enable FSR Frame Generation, I get stuttering and very high input delay. My base framerate is almost always above 70 FPS, usually even above 80 FPS.

Is there any plan to add XeSS upscaling with native upscaling as well as XeFG in GTA V Enhanced? Especially since this is one of the biggest games on Steam. For comparison, FSR 4 was released later but has already been integrated. I hope Intel will make a stronger effort to add these technologies, because they are really useful. This could really fix the Problem with FSR (Upscaling and Framegen).

Furthermore, could Intel look into this issue and possibly fix it? As far as I know, the Arc GPU series also faces significant problems with Frame Generation technologies like Lossless Scaling.

To summarize my issues:

• In online mode, the frametime graph is poor and 1% lows are lower than expected

• FSR Frame Generation causes stuttering and high input delay, even though average FPS is high (both in fullscreen and windowed mode)

• XeSS upscaling and XeFG are still missing in GTA V Enhanced

SSU file, CapFrameX recordings of the B580 and RX 7600 run with exactly the same settings, as well as screenshots of the frametimes of both GPUs, are attached.

[Mike_Intel]

Hello bani1o7,

Thank you for posting in Intel community Forum.

For me to better understand and diagnose the issue further, let me ask you to provide detailed responses to the following questions. This information will help me isolate the problem and determine the most appropriate course of action moving forward.

1. Was it working fine before?
2. If yes, what was the last change made in the system before the issue started?
3. What is your game launcher?
4. Please send a screenshot of the game's graphic settings.
5. What are the troubleshooting steps that you tried so far?
6. Every time you change the GPU, are you using DDU to install the driver?
7. For me to review the hardware and the drivers installed. Please help generate the SSU logs of your system. Please refer to the link below on how to generate the logs:

How to get the Intel® System Support Utility Logs on Windows*

If you have questions, please let us know. Thank you.

Best regards,

Michael L.

Intel Customer Support Technician

[bani1o7 · Accepted solution]

Hello Michael,

Thank you for your response. Here are the details to your questions:

1. Was it working fine before?
   No, it did not work properly before. The issues only disappeared after I reinstalled Windows and removed the NVMe drive. Now Windows is running on a SATA M.2 SSD, and since then the 1% lows are very good and the gameplay feels smooth.

2. If yes, what was the last change made in the system before the issue started?
   Last Change was DDU for both GPUs and installing the B580 with latest drivers.

• On NVMe: I even had graphic artifacts in the main menu (where you select “Free Mode,” etc.).

• On Fresh Windows and SATA M.2 SSD: These artifacts are gone, and performance is great.
  Also, FSR3 Frame Generation now works correctly, whereas before it caused stuttering and heavy input delay.

At this point, I am not sure if a fresh install on the NVMe drive would have delivered the same improvements, or if the issue was directly tied to the NVMe itself. The only thing I can confirm is that the low 1% lows disappeared only after switching to the SATA M.2 SSD.

1. What is your game launcher?
   I tested both Rockstar Games Launcher and Epic Games Launcher. The issues appeared on both with NVMe, but are gone since reinstalling on the SATA M.2 SSD.

2. Please send a screenshot of the game's graphic settings.
   I attached my graphic settings as requested.

3. What are the troubleshooting steps that you tried so far?

• Verified game files on both launchers.

• Installed on both launchers separately.

• Lowered graphical settings.

• Switched GPUs and always performed clean driver installs with DDU.

• Only after reinstalling Windows and using SATA M.2 SSD instead of NVMe did the issue go away.

1. Every time you change the GPU, are you using DDU to install the driver?
   Yes, I always use DDU. I have even used separate drives to make sure drivers cannot interfere with each other.

2. SSU logs
   The SSU logs were already included in the ZIP file I attached (SSU.txt).

Additional notes:

• I am currently on the latest Windows version 24H2 (OS Build 26100.6584) on both drives. The difference appears directly tied to the storage device and not the OS itself.

• After the reinstall on SATA M.2 SSD, the 1% lows have improved significantly, gameplay feels stable, and even FSR3 Frame Generation finally work properly.

Graphic Settings:

At this point, I cannot confirm with 100% certainty whether the performance improvement is due to the fresh Windows installation on the SATA M.2 SSD or the removal of the NVMe drive. However, since the problems disappeared after removing the NVMe from my system, it might be related to the general connection to an NVMe drive. 
It might be worth having the Driver Team take a closer look at this, as there could be more to this issue and it might be affecting other applications or the 1% lows in other games as well.

Additionally, I found a recent video uploaded just two weeks ago, showing Grand Theft Auto V Enhanced Edition running on an "older" Ryzen 5xxx system. It clearly demonstrates poor 1% lows on that hardware as well. This is not my recording but may be relevant for reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABfbSWg_iXc

For now, from my side the issue is solved, so this thread can be closed.

Best regards,
bani1o7

[Mike_Intel]

Hello bani1o7,

Thank you for the update and I am glad to hear that.

Since the thread is now tagged as "Solved", I need to close this inquiry. 

If you need further assistance, please post a new question as this thread will no longer be monitored. 

Thank you and have a great day.

Best regards,

Michael L.

Intel Customer Support Technician