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When will Intel compete with the high ends ?

Xopio
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Rdna 4 and 50 series are about to be launched will intel even try to compete with high ends, atleast 4080 GPUs or keep sticking to low end and mid low end for another year. I like intel and I wouldnt like to drop intel so easily to purchase 8800 xt or a 5070 to or something.
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bobbycold_h
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AMD already said the next RDNA generation wouldn't feature high-end GPUs. So it's just NVidia grabbing what they can...with AMD and Intel going after each other. Just like the 90's, isn't it?

Xopio
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Yes but according to leak which usually are true, 8800xt at q1 of next year and 8900xt of q3 will be released it would so wierd to say it would be mid end because if it can compete with 4080 or 5080 then it's still a pretty high end in the price of mid end or it could be better like the 6900xt launch when aib leaks were manipulated amd to make it look like it was a bad gpu but then surprised , technically intel b580 is mid end too they just selling it in low end price which is deserved. But still we don't know much. I would want intel to atleast launch to compete with 5080 if not the 5090
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bobbycold_h
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True - though everyone's been caught off-guard by the B580 already? Guess we'd have to see what a B780 has in store then. And as I wrote before, AMD already mentioned that they don't want to tackle the top end with RDNA 4. So it's just just NVidia with their 1300$+, 600W requiring GPUs.

Xopio
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Yeah and forget about the udna though, it is speculated in q3 or q4 of 2026 or maybe early 2027
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bobbycold_h
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Aside from that - if you're thinking about what's announced, you could never buy a graphics card. There's always something better "just around the corner", right?

Tbh though, I'm using an A770 for about 7 months now, and it's fine. Sure, NVidia might perform better - but am I willing to just throw 600 bucks their way for their "high-midrange" card? They've lost control because they think they can...sure, datacenter operators will pay for their AI boosters. But as a gamer? They lost that group...that is, if the masses realised. Which is why Arc is needed.

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Xopio
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I too have a770 but I was thinking of purchasing a 1800 dollars laptop then it hit me why not just buy a 1700 dollars pc and get a new monitor. Most probably I will buy 8800xt as the leaks say if it would be good. thinking of keeping a770 because I'm too emotional with this card now with me or maybe just plugging it in the 2nd pcie of new pc. And selling the rest of my pc

bobbycold_h
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Hope you didn't interpret that as fronting you - I've just been rambling about NV. A new PC with an 8800XT will be a mighty fine gaming machine, I'm sure.

bobbycold_h
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Guess that topic will get deleted tommorow - so here's one last thing to laugh about.

NVidia just unveiled the power connector for RTX 50 cards. 

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Xopio
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**bleep** that's just out of my league plus I don't think power would be the issue to someone who can spend 2000 dollars on a Gpu. But still that's crazy stuff
bobbycold_h
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It's been sarcastic, kind of a play on their 12VHPWR connector. They won't use that CEE plug...although they should consider it given the rumored total board power for those 50-series cards.

Just thinking about how we shook our heads on those GT 200- as well as HD 4000-series's power requirements...which were around 200-250 watts iirc. Now the RTX 5000 series is rumored to draw 650 watts in the largest configuration.

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bobbycold_h
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TL, DR: No competition to NVidia's "top of the line" 5000 series, AMD targeting high-mid range as well with RDNA 4. Pay 2k for bragging rights (DLSS)...or just wait to see how a B780 (?) tanks a 4080/maybe 4090.

@Xopio, anything to add to that conclusion?

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Xopio
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Well my budget would be 658 usd max on a Gpu to 587 usd ( I just converted from my currency ) if b780 which is max speculated to be 350 to 450 dollars it's hard to say it could tank 4080, most probably 4070 to 4070 ti but not more than that unless blue cheese gets crazy could be almost equal to or better than rx8800xt in terms of frame gen ray tracing and a bit worse in rasterization I would obviously buy it. And 50 series isn't coming down in any price soon so.. no nvidia for me. The competition would be between intel and amd for now just like you said mid to low ends. And nvidia's gaming share might decrease only for technical gamers. Most people around me doesn't even know arc exists which is now a year old. And some doesn't even know about rdna 4 or Battlemage just launched... But everyone do know about 50 series that's just sad.

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bobbycold_h
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That's marketing - NV is absolutely in it without any real campaning, "gamers" just know they need it. Buying streamers, paying for tournaments seems to have made a dent in the market. The B580 tanked a 4070 already though (in 1080p to be honest) - GN, Jay and even Linus praised the card for that.

I can't force you to do anything though, and waiting for the 8000-series cards seems resonable especially if you just "want things to work". Just make sure your CPU and PSU are up for it...and maybe don't install all driver updates on release.

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Xopio
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Well I want my pc in like feb or March so waiting isn't any issue, but I always like to research a lot before buying any component I like to get the most out of my bucks, I already have 750 watt and I would most probably buy Ryzen 9 9900x or maybe a new cpu below 500 dollars.

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bobbycold_h
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The 9900x should be mighty fine...as reports pile up though, an 8800XT will pair well. At least Arc Alchemist really were troubled on AM4/5. Just as I mentioned though, a word of caution - AMD drivers (especially related to chipset) can be somewhat "flaky". I'm managing some B450 platform machines, where it's been fine waiting for WHQL drivers to refine a couple of weeks.

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sreg
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