Processors without graphics not support vPro and AMT?

[ppara5]

I did not verify every last one, but I checked most of them on Ark and it appears that from Sandy Bridge through today, processors with on-chip graphics do not support vPro and therefore AMT. Does vPro require Intel graphics or is this merely an amusing coincidence?

[AlHill]

The i7-4771 (my processor) supports graphics and vPro: http://ark.intel.com/compare/75123,77656,80807 ARK | Compare Intel® Products

And, here is a list of processors with vPro and no graphics: http://ark.intel.com/Search/Advanced?s=t&GraphicsModel=None&VProTechnology=true ARK | Processor Feature Filter

Doc

[ppara5]

Three characters and one word missing from my post made it nonsense: "out" and "desktop" (should have been "without" not "with"). Oy vey!

I meant to say: "I did not verify every last one, but I checked most of them on Ark and it appears that from Sandy Bridge through today, desktop processors without on-chip graphics do not support vPro and therefore AMT. Does vPro on desktop processors require Intel graphics or is this merely an amusing coincidence?"

If I'm using that search correctly -- a big if -- I see that the only processors without graphics and with vPro are Xeon servers.

[AlHill]

Ok, here is a list of 85 processors without graphics and with vPro: http://ark.intel.com/Search/Advanced%3Fs%3Dt%26GraphicsModel%3DNone%26VProTechnology%3Dtrue ARK | Processor Feature Filter

Doc

[ppara5]

Only Xeon processors. So it appears there is no technical reason why desktop processors without graphics eschew vPro, but it's probably a marketing one, as servers and desktop processors serve very different markets. And yes, I know some people use Xeon for desktop.

Thanks again, Doc.

[AlHill]

I found this to be an interesting read:

P.S. my new laptop, although DOA, has a Xeon processor (and vPro).

Doc

[ppara5]

Thanks for that link. Dariusz Wittek must realize that Intel literature is the main source for people wondering if AMT is a tool of the IT devil. At the following URL is the sentence fragment: "[embedded] devices can be diagnosed and repaired remotely." If that's true -- and I have no way to verify it, being an outsider -- it is also possible to trash a system remotely. Wittek said that "[AMT] does not have direct access to your HDD," but if it can "remotely remediate and recover systems after OS failures," then it must be able to format and install software on the HDD. I wonder if this is another disconnect between Intel engineering and marketing.http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/intel-active-management-technology.html Intel® Active Management Technology (Intel® AMT)

[idata]

Hello, All:

paramountain, I believe that Al_Hill answered to your questions; however, if you need further assistance let me know.

Regards,

Amy.