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In a project done using Arria V FPGA (5AGXFB1HF35I3), I'm using an IP (LPM_MULT) with the following properties:
- dataa and datab input width - 16bit
- result output width - 32bit
- Signed
- Two clock pipelines
- With clken and aclr
I have a component with 2 multipliers and 2 adders (implementing a FIR), and since this component is instantiated many times across my design (along with other, different components that use DSP blocks), I want to save up as many DSP blocks as possible.
According to the Arria V handbook, 2 multipliers can fit in 1 DSP block:
According to the Quartus 18.1 compilation report I see that each multiplier uses 1 DSP block, instead of 2 multipliers using 1 DSP block. This causes Quartus to use all the available 920 DSP blocks.
Note: something strange that I see is that while for some instantiations of the FIR component there are 2 DSP blocks (instead of 1), for others no DSP blocks are implemented at all. Could be some kind of weird merge?
This is an issue for me since:
- According to calculations I made, Quartus should have used far less DSP blocks. This was assuming 2 multipliers fit into 1 DSP block.
- I need to see if my design converges (resource-wise), since my design will be implemented inside another design (that uses some DSP blocks). Therefore I need to know if there are spare DSP blocks in my design (as in my calculations).
Thank you.
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Hi,
Have you used the suggested IP cores for Arria® V variable precision DSP blocks implementation?
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/docs/programmable/683213/current/operational-modes.html
Thank you
Kshitij Goel
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Hi,
If you're talking about what they're saying here:
The following Intel® Quartus® Prime IP cores are supported for the Arria® V variable precision DSP blocks implementation:
- LPM_MULT
- ALTERA_MULT_ADD
- ALTMULT_COMPLEX
- ALTMEMMULT
Then yes, I've used the LPM_MULT IP.
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Hello,
Does no one know?
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Hi,
Please share your project to reproduce and analyze the issue.
Thank you
Kshitij Goel
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Hi,
Please share your project to reproduce and analyze the issue.
Thank you
Kshitij Goel
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Hi,
As we do not receive any response from you to the previous question that I have provided. This thread will be transitioned to community support. If you have a new question, feel free to open a new thread to get the support from Intel experts. Otherwise, the community users will continue to help you on this thread.
Thank you
Kshitij Goel
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Hi,
Sorry for not replying.
Unfortunately I am unable to share the project since it is work related and I am not allowed to do that.
Are there some requirements for merging multipliers into DSP blocks? Perhaps I am missing something.
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