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hi.

i am software developer. i use visual studio 2005 ans sqlserver 2005 .and SOA architecture.my question is if i assemble workstation on xeon 5400 series

can i improve my compile performance.or it is only stable server for network . i want to know is a workstation base on xeon 5400 series FAST and high performance OR it is only Stable and reliable server?. if it is only stable and not fast as i need i can buy for example intel Core i7 cpu and single cpu ssytem

thanks .

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I have server board S5000PSLSATAR version E12274-033, PBA: E11027-103 and Intel Xeon E5405 MM:898987, procesor stepping 0A, CPUID Register 0001067A. In my Bios I have errors code nr 8180: "BIOS does not support the current stepping for processor." and 8160: "Processor 01 unable to apply Microcode update. Microcode version: 0."

What I must doing? Help my, please...

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Thanks for your question. The Xeon processor 5400 is a multi-purpose processor that is used for enterprise servers and Technical compute (or High Perfromance Computing) plus dual socket workstations.

We offer two chipset designs (actually more but i'll simplify for this discussion). the Xeon 5500 chipset is a high performance compute and workstation chipset that delivers higher bandwidth through a faster front side bus (1600Mhz FSB) and 2nd generation PCI Express - than the mainstream server chipset (xeon 5000) running at 1333 Mhz FSB. You can read about the differences between the platforms and the full range of capabilities of the Xeon 5400 processors here http://download.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/dc54kprodbrief.pdf http://download.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/dc54kprodbrief.pdf

The processors that are optimized to run the 1600MHz FSB are listed below

X5482 3.2GHz, 12MB cache, 150W, quad-core

X5472 3.0GHz, 12MB cache, 120W, quad-core

E5472 3.0GHz, 12MB cache, 80W, quad-core

E5462 2.80GHz, 12MB cache, 80W, quad-core

We will also be introducing a new Xeon processor (codename Nehalem-EP) that will be based on the core i7 architecture soon. You can read about that product on our intel developer forum site at http://www.intel.com/idf/ http://www.intel.com/idf/

Chris

http://download.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/dc54kprodbrief.pdf http://download.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/dc54kprodbrief.pdf

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Hello All,

I'm looking for some guidance in selecting Intel server CPUs for an impending Windows 2008 Hyper-V project. Up to this point we have been building traditional (HP) stand alone servers. Hyper-V has been slected over VM-Ware so that decison has been made. we are likely going to basic server (weband e-mail at first) each physical server will likely only see 3-4 guest operating systems. I seem to have a grasp on RAM and I/O requirements, I just don't want to buy the wrong CPUs. Anyway, I'm loking at building multiple servers each with a pair of X5470 CPUs, so this would give me eight cores with plenty of cache. My issue is that I'm having trouble feeling confident with this selection as the product descripton for the X5470 seems to imply tha 64-bit support is not included (which I highly doubt). We're are an HP shop with emphasis on Intel CPUs. I basically need some documentation from Intel listing specific Hyper-V support and mayhbe CPU recomendations.

Here's the product overview that I was referring to for X5470:

http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=35430 http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=35430

PS. Here's a cool utility I came across for checking an existing CPU's feature set:

http://www.grc.com/securable.htm http://www.grc.com/securable.htm

Thanks in advance.

Andrew

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Hi Andrew,

Thanks for your question. Since you have posted on a our original thread, I would like to ask if you could please start a new thread here: http://communities.intel.com/community/openportit/server/ask http://communities.intel.com/community/openportit/server/ask. This will give your question more visibility and a quicker response from the community.

Regards,

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Andrew, Thanks for your question. The x5470 does support 64bit - the Intel(r) 64 architecture. Here is a link to our web page calling that support out

product website: http://www.intel.com/products/processor/xeon5000/index.htm?iid=servproc+body_xeon5000subtitle http://www.intel.com/products/processor/xeon5000/index.htm?iid=servproc+body_xeon5000subtitle

product breif: http://download.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/dc54kplatbrief.pdf http://download.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/dc54kplatbrief.pdf

I was not aware of that ark.intel.com site and the specification listed is a typo.

I have a note to our product marketing and web team to correct.I'm also confident that the Xeon 5400 supports XD (execute disable bit)

The x5470 is a good choice for the consolidation project you articulate (light consolidation ratios 4 VM's guests per server and standard web / email applications). The Intel IT team recently standardized on a 3GHz quad-core for their virtualization efforts.

Chris

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Andrew, Thanks to your feedback, our website http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=35430 http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=35430 has been updated to show the 64bit support on the Intel Xeon 5400 processor series. Thanks for pointing that out to us.

Respectfully, Chris

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Thanks William!

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In speaking with both our processor team and BIOS team it appears you may need a BIOS update as the older BIOS does not have the BIOS patch it needs for the processor.

A link to your board type for BIOS downloads is http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=2305 http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=2305

I hope this has been of assistance to you.

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We are in the process of buying servers, being it will be a totally new build should i wait for the new i7 Xeons? How much Gain is expected from the i7 Xeons with the current Quad Xeons? Including the difference in pricing if you include all the new components i have to get with an i7 Xeon like memory and mainboard.. Thanks!!

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For an ERP application does a database server (SQL server) perform better with 2 dual core processors or 1 quad core processor ?

Thank you.

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Hi greetings!!!

I have a Intel Entry storage System Nas SS4000-E in my Office . I got from one of my vendor with any software CD come with it .

Intially when i installed it with one 500 G.B State Hdd without Backup Option . Now i buy Three 500 G.B Hdd so when i disconnect first 500 g.b hdd and connect other three my first 500 G.B not showing my previos Data which was stored in that Hard drive .

now when i connect this hard drive with my pc its not showing the data

please suggest what to do

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What would be the benefits of using Nehalem 7400 series of procs with VMware ESX o/s with vsphere . Is that the best possible solution for running high I/O intensive apps like SQL-Exchange -Oracle APPS .

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I asked a question on Twitter and interXeon suggested that I should post my question here http://twitter.com/IntelXeon http://twitter.com/IntelXeon

A few months ago I built a dual Xeon 2.5Gh (E5420), 12 GB Ram, Cross fire ATI on Asus Z7S-WS. I've also Water cooled the whole thing. Here are couple of pictures: http://www.deskography.org http://www.deskography.org a few weeks ago, I ordered a Dell XPS i7 3.4 OC'd to 3.7 with 6 GB ram, one Nvidia Video Card (Planning to upgrade)

I don't play with these Workstations, they are used only to do renderings. When I start a network rendering using 3DSMAX, I've noticed that my Dual Xeon is faster than my Intel i7. I dobn't have the actual minutes and seconds down yet, and I don't think RAM has anything to do with renderings, since 3DSMAX uses CPU.

Am I wrong to assume that actual dual CPU is faster than the multi-core CPU's?

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rtdesign, the E5420 is a multi-core (quad-core) processor also ... so with 8 cores in the system and more memory (12 vs 6 GB Ram) so you've got 8 cores vs 4 so your CPU capacity and throughput is up with the dual Xeon - that is my guess.

Here is a single CPU WS scores for 3ds max ... http://www.intel.com/performance/workstation/xeon3000/dcc.htm?iid=perf_ws_body+3000_dcc

scores are 6.37 (1x Core2Quad) and 10.13 (1 x Xeon)

Here are dual core CPU WS scores for 3dsmax ... http://www.intel.com/performance/workstation/xeon5000/dcc.htm?iid=perf_ws_lhn+xeon5000_dcc

scores are 10.03 (2x xeon 5400) and 16.74 (2x xeon 5500)

Chris

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rtdesign, What is your twitter handle so i can follow you

i'm @chris_p_intel

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Hello,

Windows* Core poses some unique challenges for configuring network teams. There is an Intel(R) support document that addresses how to configure advanced features under Windows Core. Take a look at: http://www.intel.com/support/network/sb/CS-029966.htm How do I configure advanced features in Windows Server* 2008 core installations?

It should be able to help

-Justin Wright

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Thanks for your question and our apologies for our delayed response. I am in the process of retiring this thread. If you are still looking for comments & suggestions on your questions, please kindly start a new thread /post!input.jspa?communityID=2026 HERE . Thanks for your participation in our forum.

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