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idata
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That is not an answer. I just ordered a new Toshiba Satellite A355-S6789 with the Intel Core 2 Duo T5800 processor. You do not even have that model processor listed anywhere in Intel. I feel I am being mislead and am considering cancelling my order for this seeming dishonesty. Is that why I got such a good deal? Is it a chip you produced and then discontinued because it is subpar? I have exclusively purchased Toshiba Notebooks since the early 90s every year. The computer has all these amazing features for the price except i noticed after buying that is doesnt have a WLAN switch so I will have to go through all the trouble of configuring my wireless connection manually, and now I find i have a processor that does'nt exist according to Intel product specs. Please do not mislead a loyal customer. If this computer is no good please email me so i can refund it an buy a Toshiba that will perform as i need it to.

Sincerely,

Justin D

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William_L_Intel1
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Hi Justin,

You can find the Core2Duo T5800 listed on this product page http://www.intel.com/support/processors/mobile/core2duo/sb/CS-023116.htm http://www.intel.com/support/processors/mobile/core2duo/sb/CS-023116.htm.

If you scroll down about half-way you find a table applies to systems using the Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor built on 65-nanometer process technology for platforms based on the Mobile Intel® 965 Express Chipset Family. The T5800 is listed here.

Hope this helps answer your question.

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idata
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I HAVE A DESKTOP LAPTOP AND WOULD JUST LIKE TO BUY A BETTER PROCESSOR TO PUT IN IT AND A V PRO SOUNDS LIKE THE ONE FOR ME.

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JLodh
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Dear Guest,

First please make it clear that either you have a desktop PC or a laptop?

Now, as for the processor that you want for it and you thinking that vPro sounds like the one for you, I hope you do realize that vPro is not one of our processors, rather it is our technological platform, combination of processor technologies, hardware enhancements, management features, and security technologies that allow remote access to the PC including monitoring, maintenance, and management independently of the state of the operating system (OS) or power state of the PC.

Now taking this into consideration, tell us as to why you feel you want a vPro and we will be glad to help. Moreover, in order to replace your current processor with a newer one, you will have to provide us information about your current motherboard model so that we can help you get a compatible processor with better performance.

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Javed Lodhi

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idata
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Hello All,

I'm looking for some guidance in selecting Intel server CPUs for an impending Windows 2008 Hyper-V project. Up to this point we have been building traditional (HP) stand alone servers. Hyper-V has been slected over VM-Ware so that decison has been made. we are likely going to basic server (weband e-mail at first) each physical server will likely only see 3-4 guest operating systems. I seem to have a grasp on RAM and I/O requirements, I just don't want to buy the wrong CPUs. Anyway, I'm loking at building multiple servers each with a pair of X5470 CPUs, so this would give me eight cores with plenty of cache. My issue is that I'm having trouble feeling confident with this selection as the product descripton for the X5470 seems to imply tha 64-bit support is not included (which I highly doubt). We're are an HP shop with emphasis on Intel CPUs. I basically need some documentation from Intel listing specific Hyper-V support and mayhbe CPU recomendations.

Here's the product overview that I was referring to for X5470:

http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=35430 http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=35430

PS. Here's a cool utility I came across for checking an existing CPU's feature set:

http://www.grc.com/securable.htm http://www.grc.com/securable.htm

Thanks in advance.

Andrew

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William_L_Intel1
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Hi Andrew,

Thanks for your question. Since you have posted on a our original thread, I would like to ask if you could please start a new thread here: http://communities.intel.com/community/openportit/server/ask http://communities.intel.com/community/openportit/server/ask. This will give your question more visibility and a quicker response from the community.

Regards,

Admin

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Christophe_P_Intel
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Andrew, Thanks for your question. The x5470 does support 64bit - the Intel(r) 64 architecture. Here is a link to our web page calling that support out

product website: http://www.intel.com/products/processor/xeon5000/index.htm?iid=servproc+body_xeon5000subtitle http://www.intel.com/products/processor/xeon5000/index.htm?iid=servproc+body_xeon5000subtitle

product breif: http://download.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/dc54kplatbrief.pdf http://download.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/dc54kplatbrief.pdf

I was not aware of that ark.intel.com site and the specification listed is a typo.

I have a note to our product marketing and web team to correct.I'm also confident that the Xeon 5400 supports XD (execute disable bit)

The x5470 is a good choice for the consolidation project you articulate (light consolidation ratios 4 VM's guests per server and standard web / email applications). The Intel IT team recently standardized on a 3GHz quad-core for their virtualization efforts.

Chris

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Christophe_P_Intel
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Andrew, Thanks to your feedback, our website http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=35430 http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=35430 has been updated to show the 64bit support on the Intel Xeon 5400 processor series. Thanks for pointing that out to us.

Respectfully, Chris

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idata
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Hi

I am having two Intel Xeon Quad Core 1066Mhz (E5320) processors that came originally with Active heatsinks. I would like to know the part no. of the 2U+ passive heatsinks for these CPU's.

-Mustafa

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William_L_Intel1
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Check out "Choosing the Correct Boxed Processor Thermal Solution here: http://support.intel.com/support/processors/xeon5k/sb/CS-022301.htm http://support.intel.com/support/processors/xeon5k/sb/CS-022301.htm

Let us know if this answers your question.

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idata
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This is the Server Room correct ???

I am in the market to replace all of my current servers, we are looking at dual 5450's, however I am a little hesitant as the new i7 processors have just recently come out, and I feel that we are at the end of the Core 2 era and are moving into a new era with the i7s. It would be a shame to purchase new servers at the end of their life cycle, will they be coming out with a xeon i7 processor soon ???

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Christophe_P_Intel
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Welcome to the Server Room.

Great question as I suspect many IT professionals are wrestling with similar decisions.

Honestly, I'm not sure there is a reason to wait. Server refresh happens constantly and there is a tremendous advantage today using existing Xeon (5450s) for your business environment. In fact, comparing the Xeon 5400 series processors to single core Xeons purchased in 2004, IT power/cooling and space requirements can be cut by up to 80% while maintaining constant performance. You can calculate your potential IT savings of server refresh today with this http://www.intel.com/go/xeonestimator calculator

Yes, We will be coming out with new Xeon processors next year on the next generation intel micro-architecture under the codename of 'Nehalem-EP'. (see more here: /community/openportit/server/blog/2008/06/11/why-45nm-whats-next-part-2 http://communities.intel.com/openport/community/openportit/server/blog/2008/06/11/why-45nm-whats-next-part-2 ) We are very excited about the new architecture and the opportunities it will provide to business and IT (enhancing server performance and capability compared to previous generations)

At Intel, innovation is a constant. Intel's architectural innovation model calls for a new architecture about every 2 years and the reality is that those two architectures will overlap for a significant time period in transition. Our enabling work with software vendors strives to achieve backward compatibility with existing servers so there is not a disadvantage to deploying existing architectures while you test and deploy new.

In my opinion, the cost, performance and capability advantages of server refresh today are too large to pass up … and given that there is always more innovation around the corner, I'm not sure there is ever a reason to wait.

Thanks, Chris

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idata
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We are in the process of buying servers, being it will be a totally new build should i wait for the new i7 Xeons? How much Gain is expected from the i7 Xeons with the current Quad Xeons? Including the difference in pricing if you include all the new components i have to get with an i7 Xeon like memory and mainboard.. Thanks!!

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William_L_Intel1
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Thanks for your question and our apologies for our delayed response. I am in the process of retiring this thread. If you are still looking for comments & suggestions on your questions, please kindly start a new thread /post!input.jspa?communityID=2026 HERE . Thanks for your participation in our forum.

Wm. Hank Lea- Server Room Admin

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idata
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Hi

Thinking about building a Modular server, probably with 3-4 compute modules, to provide terminal Services for 250-350 light users of ONLY MS word, Excel, IE and even more limited use of Publisher.

Also want to include active directory, file server and internet gateway/ISA server. Only 50-100 internet sites will be allowed. This is for school use.

Am I on a right track? Any config suggestions also welcome

Thanks

Gabriel

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JLodh
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Hi Gabriel,

Intel Modular Server is a solution in a box as I put it. Intended for SMEs, Modular server addresses the need for a powerful, yet easy to manage server which can be used in different verticals of the industry. I have deployed numerous Modular servers in education sector myself and the feedback has been excellent. Now before you proceed with server configurations, calculate your hardware load according to your needs which is in accordance to your budget but before that, you need to identify individual services and servers you are going to be hosting on these servers and you also need to realize if you are looking forward to virtualization. My personal recommendation to you would be to go for Modular servers in case you guys can afford to do that (realizing your cost will greatly cut-down with introduction of Modular servers) and excellent choice for future expansion as they come with support for MP Xeon processors, SAS 2.5" and soon SATA support is also going to be announced.

For any further information about Intel modular servers, ordering, product details and troubleshooting; feel free to contact us at any time.

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Javed Lodhi

Intel Go Green, Save The Environment!

 

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idata
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hi.

i am software developer. i use visual studio 2005 ans sqlserver 2005 .and SOA architecture.my question is if i assemble workstation on xeon 5400 series

can i improve my compile performance.or it is only stable server for network . i want to know is a workstation base on xeon 5400 series FAST and high performance OR it is only Stable and reliable server?. if it is only stable and not fast as i need i can buy for example intel Core i7 cpu and single cpu ssytem

thanks .

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Christophe_P_Intel
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Thanks for your question. The Xeon processor 5400 is a multi-purpose processor that is used for enterprise servers and Technical compute (or High Perfromance Computing) plus dual socket workstations.

We offer two chipset designs (actually more but i'll simplify for this discussion). the Xeon 5500 chipset is a high performance compute and workstation chipset that delivers higher bandwidth through a faster front side bus (1600Mhz FSB) and 2nd generation PCI Express - than the mainstream server chipset (xeon 5000) running at 1333 Mhz FSB. You can read about the differences between the platforms and the full range of capabilities of the Xeon 5400 processors here http://download.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/dc54kprodbrief.pdf http://download.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/dc54kprodbrief.pdf

The processors that are optimized to run the 1600MHz FSB are listed below

X5482 3.2GHz, 12MB cache, 150W, quad-core

X5472 3.0GHz, 12MB cache, 120W, quad-core

E5472 3.0GHz, 12MB cache, 80W, quad-core

E5462 2.80GHz, 12MB cache, 80W, quad-core

We will also be introducing a new Xeon processor (codename Nehalem-EP) that will be based on the core i7 architecture soon. You can read about that product on our intel developer forum site at http://www.intel.com/idf/ http://www.intel.com/idf/

Chris

http://download.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/dc54kprodbrief.pdf http://download.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/dc54kprodbrief.pdf

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idata
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I have server board S5000PSLSATAR version E12274-033, PBA: E11027-103 and Intel Xeon E5405 MM:898987, procesor stepping 0A, CPUID Register 0001067A. In my Bios I have errors code nr 8180: "BIOS does not support the current stepping for processor." and 8160: "Processor 01 unable to apply Microcode update. Microcode version: 0."

What I must doing? Help my, please...

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idata
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In speaking with both our processor team and BIOS team it appears you may need a BIOS update as the older BIOS does not have the BIOS patch it needs for the processor.

A link to your board type for BIOS downloads is http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=2305 http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=2305

I hope this has been of assistance to you.

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idata
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For an ERP application does a database server (SQL server) perform better with 2 dual core processors or 1 quad core processor ?

Thank you.

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