1366 x 768 resolution

[crazyburns]

I have 3 Windows Vista computers that I am connecting up to Sony Bravia KDL40S2000 LCD tvs using a VGA connection. The computers are Dells with and intel Q965/Q963 Express Chipset. I am trying to run the screens at there default resolution of 1366 x 768, but this is not an option. The only resolution close to this that works is 1280 x 768, however this leaves black bars on each side of the image. I have downloaded the latest driver but this didn't make a difference. I have tried finding a display driver for the monitor (it shows up as generic display) but have been unable to find an available one. I also attempted to use PowerStrip to set a custom resolution, but this did nothing (I've read somewhere that PowerStrip doesn't work with Intel).

I found an article where they discussed editing the [NonEDIDMode_AddSwSettings] in the driver inf file, however I did not understand what all of these diffenet settings mean. Is this the best way to make this work?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[nox1]

Hi archibael,
thanks for your Help an the link :) . I use VGA only. If LCD is off, so I have many more available resolutions, over 150, but on/off nothing have 1360x768.

[aresmar]

Hello from Turkey :)

I have found here from google and I see many people solved problems with resolution issues for LCD TVs. I got a problem with getting 1366x768 res from my laptop to LCD tv. The most successful res was 1280x768.

LCDTV: Panasonic TX-32LX70F
Laptop: MSI VR601 (gma x3100)
I connect them with VGA cable.

I couldnt be able get the raw EDID data from lcd tv it only shows the laptops screen. Form the manual of it I am sure the TV is capable of 1:1 on VGA connection 1366x768.

Can you give me some DTD data so I can basically open a 1366x768 resolution and use my lcd 1:1 pixel. Maybe a generic one would be even useful.
From the manual of LCDTV: 1366x768@60HZ 48.39Khz 60.04Hz maybe it helps.

I would be greatful if you can help me get 1:1 pixels from my laptop to lcd.

I have found here these data I dont understand this language but it might help?
Site: http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/1233659/5

PowerStrip timing parameters:
1368x768=1368,28,160,232,768,23,4,31,89910,560

Generic timing details for 1368x768:
HFP=28 HSW=160 HBP=232 kHz=50 VFP=23 VSW=4 VBP=31 Hz=61

VESA detailed timing:
PClk=89,91 H.Active=1368 H.Blank=420 H.Offset=12 HSW=160 V.Active=768 V.Blank=58 V.Offset=23 VSW=4

Linux modeline parameters:
"1368x768" 89,910 1368 1396 1556 1788 768 791 795 826 +hsync +vsync

[Aaron_B_Intel]

aresmar,

Assuming that Modeline is accurate, your settings are

1F 23 58 A4 51 00 3A 30 1C A0 74 04 00 00 00 00 00 1E

Nox1, you can try that one, but every 136xx768 monitor is different.

[aresmar]

Thank you very much.

I hope it works. I will try asap when I go home. :)

[aresmar]

Thanks again, it worked :)

[sunni0726]

Hi archibael!

Can you help me? I'm on Mobile Intel 945GM and I need a resolution of 768x1366@60Hz for a Panasonic TH-58PH10UK

I'm currently running 1024x1280 @ 60Hz on VGA

Thanks.

Monitor
Windows description......... Plug and Play Monitor
Manufacturer description.... Ophit SXGA
Manufacturer................ OPT

Plug and Play ID............ OPT5853
Serial number............... n/a
EDID data source............ Registry (stored)

Manufacture date............ 2004, ISO week 10
EDID revision............... 1.3
Display type and signal..... Digital
Sync input support.......... n/a
Screen size................. 370 x 220 mm (~18")
Power management............ Standby, Suspend, Active off/sleep

Color characteristics
Display gamma............... 2.20
Red chromaticity............ Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.329
Green chromaticity.......... Gx 0.300 - Gy 0.586
Blue chromaticity........... Bx 0.146 - By 0.070
White point (default)....... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329

Timing characteristics
VESA GTF support............ Not supported
Horizontal scan range....... 30-80kHz (est.)
Vertical scan range......... 48-75Hz (est.)
Video bandwidth............. 140MHz (est.)
Extension blocks............ n/a
Timing recommendation #1.... 1280x1024 at 60Hz
Modeline................ "1280x1024" 108.000 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
640 x 480 at 60Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480 at 72Hz - VESA
640 x 480 at 75Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 60Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 72Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 75Hz - VESA
1024 x 768 at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768 at 70Hz - VESA
1024 x 768 at 72Hz - VESA
1024 x 768 at 75Hz - VESA
1280 x 960 at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 960 at 75Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024 at 60Hz - OPT
1280 x 1024 at 75Hz - VESA

Raw EDID base
00: 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 3E 14 53 58 00 00 00 00
10: 0A 0E 01 03 80 25 16 78 E8 DC 45 A3 54 4C 96 25
20: 12 50 54 2D 4F 00 45 4C 81 40 81 4F 61 4C 01 01
30: 01 01 01 01 01 01 30 2A 00 98 51 00 2A 40 30 70
40: 13 00 68 22 11 00 00 1E 00 00 00 FC 00 4F 70 68
50: 69 74 20 53 58 47 41 0A 20 20 00 00 00 FD 00 28
60: 56 1F 5A 0E 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 00 00 00 10
70: 00 00 26 30 20 10 66 00 83 81 21 00 00 1E 00 AB

Display adapter
Adapter description......... Mobile Intel 945GM Express Chipset Family
Adapter device ID........... 0x27A28086
Display settings............ 1024x1280, 32bpp

[Aaron_B_Intel]

That information seems to be about your laptop monitor, not the Panasonic. If you make the Panasonic the sole display, can you get information about it from the Diagnostics Report in the Intel Graphics Tray, or from MonInfo? Alternatively, run MonInfo on another computer (which does recognize it).

You need the EDID information from the Panasonic. My attempts to find it with Google have been unsuccessful, but you may succeed where I've failed.

[sunni0726]

I plugged it into another laptop and I was able to get the information.
Still new at this, sorry for not having all the information.

Monitor
Windows description......... Panasonic Monitor
Manufacturer description.... TH-58PH10
Manufacturer................ Panasonic

Plug and Play ID............ MEIA06D
Serial number............... 1141011057
EDID data source............ I2C bus (real-time)

Manufacture date............ 2007, ISO week 25
EDID revision............... 1.3
Display type and signal..... Analog 0.700,0.300 (1.0V p-p)
Sync input support.......... Separate, Composite, Sync on green
Screen size................. 1290 x 720 mm (~61")
Power management............ Standby

Color characteristics
Display gamma............... 2.20
Red chromaticity............ Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.345
Green chromaticity.......... Gx 0.291 - Gy 0.635
Blue chromaticity........... Bx 0.163 - By 0.093
White point (default)....... Wx 0.288 - Wy 0.296

Timing characteristics
VESA GTF support............ Not supported
Horizontal scan range....... 30-81kHz (est.)
Vertical scan range......... 48-85Hz (est.)
Video bandwidth............. 2550MHz (est.)
Extension blocks............ n/a
Timing recommendation #1.... 1366x768 at 60Hz
Modeline................ "1366x768" 86.710 1366 1398 1578 1792 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
Timing recommendation #2.... 852x480 at 60Hz
Modeline................ "852x480" 33.540 852 874 1002 1066 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync

Standard timings supported
640 x 480 at 60Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480 at 67Hz - Mac II
640 x 480 at 72Hz - VESA
640 x 480 at 75Hz - VESA
640 x 480 at 85Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 56Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 60Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 72Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 75Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 85Hz - VESA
832 x 624 at 75Hz - Mac II
852 x 480 at 60Hz - Panasonic
1024 x 768 at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768 at 70Hz - VESA
1024 x 768 at 75Hz - VESA
1024 x 768 at 85Hz - VESA
1152 x 864 at 75Hz - VESA
1152 x 870 at 75Hz - Mac II
1280 x 960 at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024 at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024 at 75Hz - VESA
1366 x 768 at 60Hz - Panasonic
1600 x 1200 at 60Hz - VESA
1600 x 1200 at 65Hz - VESA

Raw EDID base
00: 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 34 A9 6D A0 71 72 02 44
10: 19 11 01 03 0E 81 48 78 88 DA FF A3 58 4A A2 29
20: 17 49 4B 3F EF 80 A9 40 81 80 81 40 71 4F 61 59
30: 45 59 31 59 A9 45 DF 21 56 AA 51 00 26 30 20 B4
40: 36 00 0A D0 52 00 00 18 1A 0D 54 D6 30 E0 2D 10
50: 16 80 A2 00 0A D0 52 00&n bsp; 00 18 00 00 00 FD 00 30
60: 78 0F 6E FF 00 0A 20 20 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 FC
70: 00 54 48 2D 35 38 50 48 31 30 0A 20 20 20 00 E2

[Aaron_B_Intel]

Perfect! The timings you are looking for (1366x768) are:

DF 21 56 AA 51 00 26 30 20 B436 00 0A D0 52 00 00 18

[takhrai]

Hi Archibael!

I need a timing for my Philips 37PF5520.

Gfx = Intel G35 (Asus P5E-VM HDMI mboard)
HDMI>DVI cable from HTPC to my Philips.
I got DTD calc but i cant find 1366x768 in Standard Timing list. Can you please help me?

Info:

Monitor
Windows description......... Plug and Play-bildskrm
Manufacturer description.... HDMI TV
Manufacturer................ Philips

Plug and Play ID............ PHL4650
Serial number...............
EDID data source............ Registry (stored)

Manufacture date............ 2005, ISO week 16
EDID revision............... 1.1
Display type and signal..... Digital
Sync input support.......... n/a
Screen size................. 820 x 460 mm (~39")
Power management............ Standby

Color characteristics
Display gamma............... 2,20
Red chromaticity............ Rx 0,640 - Ry 0,341
Green chromaticity.......... Gx 0,287 - Gy 0,610
Blue chromaticity........... Bx 0,146 - By 0,069
White point (default)....... Wx 0,285 - Wy 0,293

Timing characteristics
VESA GTF support............ Not supported
Horizontal scan range....... 29-80kHz (est.)
Vertical scan range......... 48-85Hz (est.)
Video bandwidth............. 140MHz (est.)
Extension blocks............ n/a
Timing recommendation #1.... 1280x768 at 60Hz
Modeline................ "1280x768" 69,000 1280 1280 1300 1424
768 769 775 812 -hsync -vsync

Standard timings supported
640 x 360 at 85Hz - VESA
640 x 480 at 60Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480 at 67Hz - Mac II
640 x 480 at 72Hz - VESA
640 x 480 at 75Hz - VESA
720 x 400 at 70Hz - IBM VGA
800 x 450 at 85Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 56Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 60Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 72Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 75Hz - VESA
832 x 624 at 75Hz - Mac II
1024 x 576 at 85Hz - VESA
1024 x 768 at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768 at 70Hz - VESA
1024 x 768 at 75Hz - VESA
1152 x 648 at 75Hz - VESA
1280 x 720 at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 768 at 60Hz - Philips
1280 x 1024 at 75Hz - VESA

Raw EDID base
00: 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 41 0C 50 46 01 01 01 01
10: 10 0F 01 01 80 52 2E 78 88 D9 70 A3 57 49 9C 25
20: 11 49 4B BF EF 00 31 D9 45 D9 61 D9 71 CF 81 C0
30: 81 C0 01 C1 01 C1 F4 1A 00 90 50 00 2C 30 00 14
40: 16 00 40 44 21 00 00 18 00 00 00 FF 00 20 20 20
50: 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 FC 00 48
60: 44 4D 49 20 54 56 0A 20 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 FD
70: 00 2F 55 1F 50 0E 00 0A 20 20 20 20 20 20 00 8C

Display adapter
Adapter description.. ....... Intel G35 Express Chipset Family
Adapter device ID........... 0x29828086
Display settings............ 1280x720, 32bpp

[Aaron_B_Intel]

Not finding anything out there which indicates your TV can actually do the native resolution (Googling "37PF5520 Modeline"didn't help me). Your EDID doesn't advertise 1368x768, and while your TV isn't listed at

http://pixelmapping.wikispaces.com/Philips+TVs

it may be illustrative that neither Philips sets which are listed can do the native 1368x768 resolution over VGA or HDMI.

If you can find someone on the Web who has gotten your TV working at 1368x768 and get their Powerstrip or Linux Modeline settings, I can help. But right now, your EDID isn't offering 1368x768, and that's probably why the Intel driver isn't either.

[osyris]

Hi Archibael,

I have spent a couple of days taking examples from this forum and experimenting with different settings for the graphycs card on my notebook... no luck so far, so I hope you will be able to help.

I have a Panasonic Plasma display TH-50PH9WK and connect it over VGA. This panel is officialy told to support 1366x768 resolution... however i do not see it in the list MonInfo gave me. The best picture I got so far was on 1280x768, but is looks stretched. After experimenting with setting I was also able to get 1366x806 timing optio in my display settings but, when selected,plasma display says "no signal"

So questions are:

What is the native resolution of this display after all? 1366x768? or 1366x806?
How do I set up my notebook to display in this resolution?

Hoping for your soonest reply!

Here is what MonInfo gave me:

Monitor
Windows description......... Plug and Play Monitor
Manufacturer description.... TH-50P*9
Manufacturer................ Panasonic

Plug and Play ID............ MEIA04A
Serial number............... 149 (164300149)
EDID data source............ I2C bus (real-time)

Manufacture date............ 2006, ISO week 43
EDID revision............... 1.1
Display type and signal..... Analog 0.700,0.300 (1.0V p-p)
Sync input support.......... Separate, Composite, Sync on green
Screen size................. 1100 x 620 mm (~52")
Power management............ Standby

Color characteristics
Display gamma............... 2,20
Red chromaticity............ Rx 0,640 - Ry 0,345
Green chromaticity.......... Gx 0,291 - Gy 0,635
Blue chromaticity........... Bx 0,163 - By 0,093
White point (default)....... Wx 0,288 - Wy 0,296

Timing characteristics
VESA GTF support............ Not supported
Horizontal scan range....... 29-94kHz (est.)
Vertical scan range......... 43-88Hz (est.)
Video bandwidth............. 2550MHz (est.)
Extension blocks............ n/a
Timing recommendation #1.... 1366x806 at 57Hz
Modeline................ "1366x806" 86,710 1366 1398 1579 1792 806 806 841 844 -hsync -vsync
Timing recommendation #2.... 852x480 at 60Hz
Modeline................ "852x480" 34,010 852 880 1016 1072 480 480 540 529 -hsync -vsync

Standard timings supported
640 x 480 at 60Hz - IBM VGAa
640 x 480 at 67Hz - Mac II
640 x 480 at 72Hz - VESA
640 x 480 at 75Hz - VESA
640 x 480 at 85Hz - VESA
720 x 400 at 70Hz - IBM VGA
720 x 400 at 88Hz - IBM XGA2
800 x 600 at 56Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 60Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 72Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 75Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 85Hz - VESA
832 x 624 at 75Hz - Mac II
852 x 480 at 60Hz - Panasonic
1024 x 768 at 43Hz - IBM 8514a
1024 x 768 at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768 at 70Hz - VESA
1024 x 768 at 75Hz - VESA
1024 x 768 at 85Hz - VESA
1152 x 864 at 85Hz - VESA
1152 x 870 at 75Hz - Mac II
1280 x 960 at 85Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024 at 75Hz - VESA
1360 x 765 at 60Hz - VESA
1366 x 806 at 57Hz - Panasonic
1600 x 1200 at 75Hz - VESA

Raw EDID base
00: 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 34 A9 4A A0 95 00 00 00
10: 2B 10 01 01 0E 6E 3E 78 88 DA FF A3 58 4A A2 29
20: 17 49 4B FF FF 80 8B C0 A9 4F 81 59 71 59 61 59
30: 45 59 31 59 01 01 DF 21 56 AA 51 26 26 30 20 B5
40: 03 06 4C 6C 42 00 00 18 49 0D 54 DC 30 E0 31 10
50: 1C 88 0C 03 4C 6C 42 00 00 18 00 00 00 FD 00 30
60: 78 0F 6E FF 00 0A 20 20 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 FC
70: 00 54 48 2D 35 30 50 2A 39 0A 20 20 20 20 00 2B

Display adapter
Adapter description......... Mobile Intel 965 Express Chipset Family
Adapter device ID........... 0x2A028086
Display settings............ 1024x768, 32bpp

User/computer information
Registered user name........ Julia Krasavtseva
Registered organization..... n/a
Network user name........... Julia Krasavtseva
Network computer name....... ISSIDA
Windows version ............ Windows XP
Windows build .............. 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2
Installation date .......... n/a

And here is the section of the inf file I have been modifying:

[NonEDIDMode_AddSwSettings]
HKR,, TotalDTDCount, %REG_DWORD%, 4 ; This shows number of DTDs to be used. ; 0-->Disable the feature.
;Following keys have 20 bytes (18 byte DTD + 2 Byte flags).
HKR,, DTD_1,%REG_BINARY%, 66,21,50,B0,51,00,1B,30,48,70,36,00,00,00,00,00,00,1C,37,01 ;1920x1080@60...Interlaced
HKR,, DTD_2,%REG_BINARY%, 66,21,50,B0,51,00,1B,30,48,70,36,00,00,00,00,00,00,1E,37,01 ;1920x1080@50...Interlaced
HKR,, DTD_3,%REG_BINARY%, 66,21,50,B0,51,00,1B,30,48,70,36,00,00,00,00,00,00,1A,37,01 ;1280x720@50....Non-interlaced
HKR,, DTD_4,%REG_BINARY%, 66,21,50,B0,51,00,1B,30,48,70,36,00,00,00,00,00,00,18,37,01 ;1280x720@60....Non-interlaced
HKR,, DTD_5,%REG_BINARY%, 01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00,34,CC,31,00,00,9E,37,01 ;1080i
HKR,, DTD_6,%REG_BINARY%, 01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00,34,CC,31,00,00,1E,37,01 ;720p
HKR,, DTD_7,%REG_BINARY%, 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00 ;Seventh DTD

[NonEDIDMode_DelSwSettings]
HKR,, TotalDTDCount
HKR,, DTD_1
HKR,, DTD_2
HKR,, DTD_3
HKR,, DTD_4
HKR,, DTD_5
HKR,, DTD_6
HKR,, DTD_7

[Intel_C_Intel]

I suspect the EDID is corrupt/poorly designed-- the way the DTD for 1368x768 is written:

DF 21 56 AA 51 26 26 30 20 B5 03 06 4C 6C 42 00 00 18

there's 806 pixels across and then the sync pulse happens immediately and is 35 lines long. I suppose it's possible it was done that way on purpose, but I suspect it's an error on Panasonic's part andshould be something like

DF 21 56 AA 5100 26 30 20 B5 36 00 4C 6C 42 00 00 18

which is 3 lines before a sync pulse, then a 6 line long sync pulse, and a total number of lines at 806 with 768 active lines. Makes way more sense. Still can't guarantee it will work for you, but it's way more likely than what you've got.

[osyris]

Hi,

Thanks for your reply! I actualy have very little understanding of how and why when it comes to setting up monitors and configuring graphics cards... So I would be very greatful, if you take me through a step-by-step explanation :) I thought it would be like connecting a 19" monitor to a computer and now it turns into science :P.

So far I know that there is MonInfo utility, that can help with getting monitor info, and there is an *.inf file within a driver package, that can be modified to get a desirable resolution. Sorry, but I have no idea what EDID or DTD are and what dressing those are usually served with :P

I learn fast, so hope you'll find some time to enlighten me.

Thanks in advance!

[Intel_C_Intel]

Best place to go to understand what's going on here is

http://softwarecommunity.intel.com/Wiki/Graphics/239.htm

It's got instructions and discussion.

You'll want to modify your .inf file or registry with the settings I just gave you and see if 1366x768 shows up in your list of resolutions (sounds like you already tried this with 1366x806), then you'll want to try it out.

The modification I'vesuggested is just my guess based on what I know about how DTDs are constructed and obvious errors someone might make in generating one.

[fen_star]

I just wanted to say thank you. I have spent hours trying to figure this thing out, and although I haven't quite got it right (my TV is cutting off the edges of the screen) this is the closest I have gotten.

[zetty1]

Do you guys have a "for dummies section?" I'm a little confused and not that good with computer lingo. I am trying to connect my computer, which is a Frankenstein, to my Vizio VX32L television. I found the cables I need, but on the Vizio site it states:

"a) For the best picture quality when connecting a pc computer through RGB PC, set your pc
computer timing mode to VESA 1360 x 768 at 60Hz. Please refer to the pc or graphic
cards user guide for additional information on how to set the timing mode and the video
output requirements of the product.
b) A RGB (VGA) cable and stereo mini jack cable are not included and can be purchased at
an electronics store."

Only thing is I have no idea how to do this or even that I could change the resolution that far up. the 60Hz is easy. Just can't find anything on the computer timing mode, VESA, Or the 1360 x 768. I have a Nvidia GeForce Fx 5200.

Any other info on my cpu I can give you that will help you help me, just let me. Thanks.