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I've found a couple other posts regarding this particular setup, or at least very similar setups, but none of them seem to have a good outcome, so I'm kind of losing hope.
I have a tablet PC with an 82855/852 GM/GME (which is it? this is what is reported by the device manager.. how can it be two chipsets?). I have an Acer AL2216W flatpanel LCD with a native resolution of 1680x1050@60Hz. My laptop only has VGA out, no DVI, thankfully the monitor has VGA in.
I am on XP Tablet edition.
I can hook up the laptop to the monitor but of course 1680x1050 is not one of the supported resolutions.
I've tried the IEGD toolkit (version 8.0.2) to make some custom drivers, and ended up with four or five drivers that caused the display to enter what seemed to be a "test mode" on startup, showing alternating white, red, green, blue, and black screens. I followed arch's thread on this exactly without success.
I downloaded the DTD Calculator. Like some others here, for me the calculator didn't find anything in the pertinent registry keys. So, I added the TotalDTDCount to one of the locations that it searches. Then I was able to use it to write the DTD as reported by MonInfo into the registry. No go. The resolution does not appear as a choice. Tried 1678x1050 also unsuccessfully.
That DTD Calculator didn't find any useful registry keys before I started makes me wonder if my drivers even use them. I'm currently running 6.14.10.4497, which are, as far as I know, the newest drivers for my hardware.
I just want to output 1680x1050. Is that too much to ask of Mr. Graphics Card?
I have a tablet PC with an 82855/852 GM/GME (which is it? this is what is reported by the device manager.. how can it be two chipsets?). I have an Acer AL2216W flatpanel LCD with a native resolution of 1680x1050@60Hz. My laptop only has VGA out, no DVI, thankfully the monitor has VGA in.
I am on XP Tablet edition.
I can hook up the laptop to the monitor but of course 1680x1050 is not one of the supported resolutions.
I've tried the IEGD toolkit (version 8.0.2) to make some custom drivers, and ended up with four or five drivers that caused the display to enter what seemed to be a "test mode" on startup, showing alternating white, red, green, blue, and black screens. I followed arch's thread on this exactly without success.
I downloaded the DTD Calculator. Like some others here, for me the calculator didn't find anything in the pertinent registry keys. So, I added the TotalDTDCount to one of the locations that it searches. Then I was able to use it to write the DTD as reported by MonInfo into the registry. No go. The resolution does not appear as a choice. Tried 1678x1050 also unsuccessfully.
That DTD Calculator didn't find any useful registry keys before I started makes me wonder if my drivers even use them. I'm currently running 6.14.10.4497, which are, as far as I know, the newest drivers for my hardware.
I just want to output 1680x1050. Is that too much to ask of Mr. Graphics Card?
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Pf, I forgot to include the MonInfo info.
Monitor
Manufacturer description.... Acer AL2216W
Manufacturer................ ACR
Plug and Play ID............ ACRAD74
Serial number............... L74090386340
EDID data source............ I2C bus (real-time)
Manufacture date............ 2007, ISO week 22
EDID revision............... 1.3
Display type and signal..... Analog 0.700,0.000 (0.7V p-p)
Sync input support.......... Separate
Screen size................. 470 x 300 mm (~23")
Power management............ Active off/sleep
Color characteristics
Display gamma............... 2.20
Red chromaticity............ Rx 0.644 - Ry 0.348
Green chromaticity.......... Gx 0.286 - Gy 0.603
Blue chromaticity........... Bx 0.143 - By 0.070
White point (default)....... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329
Timing characteristics
VESA GTF support............ Not supported
Horizontal scan range....... 30-82kHz
Vertical scan range......... 56-76Hz
Video bandwidth............. 210MHz
Extension blocks............ n/a
Timing recommendation #1.... 1680x1050 at 60Hz
Modeline................ "1680x1050" 146.250 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync
Standard timings supported
640 x 480 at 60Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480 at 67Hz - Mac II
640 x 480 at 72Hz - VESA
640 x 480 at 75Hz - VESA
720 x 400 at 70Hz - IBM VGA
800 x 600 at 56Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 60Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 72Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 75Hz - VESA
832 x 624 at 75Hz - Mac II
1024 x 768 at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768 at 70Hz - VESA
1024 x 768 at 75Hz - VESA
1152 x 864 at 75Hz - VESA
1280 x 720 at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 960 at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024 at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024 at 75Hz - VESA
1360 x 765 at 60Hz - VESA
1440 x 1440 at 60Hz - VESA
1440 x 1440 at 75Hz - VESA
1680 x 1050 at 60Hz - ACR
1680 x 1680 at 60Hz - VESA
Raw EDID base
00: 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 04 72 74 AD 96 04 20 72
10: 16 11 01 03 68 2F 1E 78 2E C5 85 A4 59 49 9A 24
20: 12 50 54 BF EF 00 81 80 81 40 71 4F 95 00 95 0F
30: B3 00 81 C0 8B C0 21 39 90 30 62 1A 27 40 68 B0
40: 36 00 D9 28 11 00 00 1C 00 00 00 FD 00 38 4C 1E
50: 52 15 00 0A 20 20 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 FC 00 41
60: 63 65 72 20 41 4C 32 32 31 36 57 0A 00 00 00 FF
70: 00 4C 37 34 30 39 30 33 38 36 33 34 30 0A 00 E7
Display adapter
Adapter description......... Intel 82852/82855 GM/GME Graphics Controller
Adapter device ID........... 0x35828086
Display settings............ 1400x1050, 32bpp
User/compu ter information
Registered user name........ Jarrett
Registered organization..... n/a
Network user name........... Jarrett
Network computer name....... JFB10TABLET
Windows version ............ Windows XP
Windows build .............. 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2
Installation date .......... 8/17/2005 12:00:00 PM
Monitor
Manufacturer description.... Acer AL2216W
Manufacturer................ ACR
Plug and Play ID............ ACRAD74
Serial number............... L74090386340
EDID data source............ I2C bus (real-time)
Manufacture date............ 2007, ISO week 22
EDID revision............... 1.3
Display type and signal..... Analog 0.700,0.000 (0.7V p-p)
Sync input support.......... Separate
Screen size................. 470 x 300 mm (~23")
Power management............ Active off/sleep
Color characteristics
Display gamma............... 2.20
Red chromaticity............ Rx 0.644 - Ry 0.348
Green chromaticity.......... Gx 0.286 - Gy 0.603
Blue chromaticity........... Bx 0.143 - By 0.070
White point (default)....... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329
Timing characteristics
VESA GTF support............ Not supported
Horizontal scan range....... 30-82kHz
Vertical scan range......... 56-76Hz
Video bandwidth............. 210MHz
Extension blocks............ n/a
Timing recommendation #1.... 1680x1050 at 60Hz
Modeline................ "1680x1050" 146.250 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync
Standard timings supported
640 x 480 at 60Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480 at 67Hz - Mac II
640 x 480 at 72Hz - VESA
640 x 480 at 75Hz - VESA
720 x 400 at 70Hz - IBM VGA
800 x 600 at 56Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 60Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 72Hz - VESA
800 x 600 at 75Hz - VESA
832 x 624 at 75Hz - Mac II
1024 x 768 at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768 at 70Hz - VESA
1024 x 768 at 75Hz - VESA
1152 x 864 at 75Hz - VESA
1280 x 720 at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 960 at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024 at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024 at 75Hz - VESA
1360 x 765 at 60Hz - VESA
1440 x 1440 at 60Hz - VESA
1440 x 1440 at 75Hz - VESA
1680 x 1050 at 60Hz - ACR
1680 x 1680 at 60Hz - VESA
Raw EDID base
00: 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 04 72 74 AD 96 04 20 72
10: 16 11 01 03 68 2F 1E 78 2E C5 85 A4 59 49 9A 24
20: 12 50 54 BF EF 00 81 80 81 40 71 4F 95 00 95 0F
30: B3 00 81 C0 8B C0 21 39 90 30 62 1A 27 40 68 B0
40: 36 00 D9 28 11 00 00 1C 00 00 00 FD 00 38 4C 1E
50: 52 15 00 0A 20 20 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 FC 00 41
60: 63 65 72 20 41 4C 32 32 31 36 57 0A 00 00 00 FF
70: 00 4C 37 34 30 39 30 33 38 36 33 34 30 0A 00 E7
Display adapter
Adapter description......... Intel 82852/82855 GM/GME Graphics Controller
Adapter device ID........... 0x35828086
Display settings............ 1400x1050, 32bpp
User/compu ter information
Registered user name........ Jarrett
Registered organization..... n/a
Network user name........... Jarrett
Network computer name....... JFB10TABLET
Windows version ............ Windows XP
Windows build .............. 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2
Installation date .......... 8/17/2005 12:00:00 PM
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JarrettBillingsley:
I have a tablet PC with an 82855/852 GM/GME
That DTD Calculator didn't find any useful registry keys before I started makes me wonder if my drivers even use them. I'm currently running 6.14.10.4497, which are, as far as I know, the newest drivers for my hardware.
I just want to output 1680x1050. Is that too much to ask of Mr. Graphics Card?
If you read the first couple of sentences here:
http://softwarecommunity.intel.com/Wiki/Graphics/239.htm
"work with G35, G33, G31, G965, GM965, 945G/GM, and 915G/GM chipsets which use the 14.25.50 drivers or later. Other chipsets are probably not supported unless they work with that driver or a newer one. "You have an unsupported chipset and your driver revision is to old. More recent drivers don't work. DTD Calculator (better said: DTDs itself) don't work on your chipset.
Either you get IEGD running or you don't. However even if IEGD doesn't run for you. It's not a loss. During general purpose office use this driver has so many restrictions.
I don't think there's any other way of getting your resolution to work. Unless you boot in linux (you may try ubuntu 8.04 live CD). And from linux use VMWare / VirtualBox for Windows. But that's unlikely what you want.
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7oby:
If you read the first couple of sentences here:
http://softwarecommunity.intel.com/Wiki/Graphics/239.htm
You have an unsupported chipset and your driver revision is to old. More recent drivers don't work. DTD Calculator (better said: DTDs itself) don't work on your chipset.
Ah damn, I'm not sure how I missed those sentences. Thanks.
7oby:
Either you get IEGD running or you don't. However even if IEGD doesn't run for you. It's not a loss. During general purpose office use this driver has so many restrictions.
I don't think there's any other way of getting your resolution to work. Unless you boot in linux (you may try ubuntu 8.04 live CD). And from linux use VMWare / VirtualBox for Windows. But that's unlikely what you want.
I do actually dual-boot Linux on that machine, so it's a possibility, but likely too much of a pain to be worth it :P Since 7.10 I've also had issues with the tablet driver in Ubuntu, but that's another issue altogether.
I guess I'll just have to revert to plan B: try to develop a driver that will allow me to hook my tablet PC up to my desktop and just use the tablet as an input device for the desktop. Hmm...
(You see now why I wish this were easier!)
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JarrettBillingsley:
Since 7.10 I've also had issues with the tablet driver in Ubuntu, but that's another issue altogether.
Upgrade to ubuntu 8.04.1 if that makes sense.
If you have video issues you may even experiment with latest 2.4.0 intel driver taken from intrepid repository:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/xserver-xorg-video-intel
If it's related to the touchscreen (= input device) you might update the driver for this one.
JarrettBillingsley:
I guess I'll just have to revert to plan B: try to develop a driver that will allow me to hook my tablet PC up to my desktop and just use the tablet as an input device for the desktop.
I don't think you need to develop something. Just use remote desktop or VNC and you should be done. The XP tablet extensions can be enabled on the desktop as well as far as I know.
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7oby:
Upgrade to ubuntu 8.04.1 if that makes sense.
I have. Both 7.10 and 8.04 have the same problems. Here's hoping 8.10 will fix it but I somehow doubt it. (I've also had power management issues with 7.10 and 8.04, which are a bit more troubling. And apparently I am not the only one with my model of laptop to encounter them.)
7oby:
I don't think you need to develop something. Just use remote desktop or VNC and you should be done. The XP tablet extensions can be enabled on the desktop as well as far as I know.
Hm, I suppose that's possible. Still the issue with that is that the display would be on the laptop, not the desktop, which is exactly what I've been trying to reverse through this whole situation ;)
Or, I could just break down and get an external tablet for the desktop! Pfuh.
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JarrettBillingsley:
Both 7.10 and 8.04 have the same problems.
There's one important difference between Windows and Linux I think. Intel redirects every support question related to Windows to your OEM manufacturer:
http://www.intel.com/support/feedback.htm
And the manufacturer is often simply not sufficiently qualified enough. Nor does he have access to important driver information and bug databases.
Anyway. With linux the situation is different. You get good support for your product. A good place to start is
http://ubuntuforums.org/
or if you know already which component/driver is causing trouble browse the bugtracker:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
Ubuntu is just such a common distribution that it's quite unlikely you being the first person hitting a particular bug. In that case you'll find already the bug in the bugtracker and it either contains walkaround information or it contains information about when it's gonna be fixed: e.g. next ubuntu update, next ubuntu release or it's only fixed in a future upstream driver revision. However support for Linux isn't free: Often it costs your time.
BTW: Have you recognized ubuntu's technical answer system? Ask a question and it gets answered:
http://www.ubuntu.com/support
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu
Related to the 1680 x 1050 resolution you were initially searching for: I'm sure this one is supported out of the box with those ubuntu installations, since the intel driver queries the display for it's preferred display mode.
JarrettBillingsley:
Hm, I suppose that's possible. Still the issue with that is that the display would be on the laptop, not the desktop, which is exactly what I've been trying to reverse through this whole situation ;)
I'm confused about your requirements. You initial posting asks for 1680 x 1050 on the external display attached to the notebook. You won't get that in Windows easily (except IEGD drivers, which are kind of horrible). You will get that with ubuntu unless you run into other troubles, which you haven't mentioned yet. If you now use ubuntu to attach to the Windows installation on the desktop PC, you get your 1680 x 1050 out of your notebook without developing a "new driver", which you suggested.
If you don't want to use you notebook, but just the desktop then an external tablet would be helpful.
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7oby:
Anyway. With linux the situation is different. You get good support for your product. A good place to start is
http://ubuntuforums.org/
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=599111
Though to be fair I never reported it in the bugtracker, but that's not to say no one else has:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/183242
7oby:
I'm confused about your requirements. You initial posting asks for 1680 x 1050 on the external display attached to the notebook. You won't get that in Windows easily (except IEGD drivers, which are kind of horrible). You will get that with ubuntu unless you run into other troubles, which you haven't mentioned yet. If you now use ubuntu to attach to the Windows installation on the desktop PC, you get your 1680 x 1050 out of your notebook without developing a "new driver", which you suggested.
I was referring to your suggestion of using VNC. Then I'd be controlling my desktop with my tablet, yes, but the display would be on the tablet, not on the desktop monito-
Oh, nevermind. I just realized it would be visible on the desktop monitor. It might be weird, though, if the laptop only showed a 1024x768 "slice" of the full 1680x1050 screen, unless that can be configured in VNC.

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