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Intel AX210 - Gentoo Linux OS - Unable To Enable AP Operation at Any Non-2.4GHz Frequency

IAmMrZ
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Hi There !

 

I'm Setting-Up a New Edge Router ( & WiFi AP ) . It's a 'Intel Celeron J4125' based 'NUC' Like System, with an Onboard 2x1GE (2x RJ45/8P8C) & a Self-Installed 'Intel AX210' M.2-2230 Card (Brand New).

 

I've Successfully Brought Up The System & Installed a 'Gentoo Linux' OS (an Old-Time Favorite) - Including a Linux Kernel Built with The Latest WiFi Regulatory DB as a Built-In Firmware,

But Only To Find Out That The 'Intel AX210' Card - While Successfully Enable AP Operation at 2.4GHz Frequencies (Tested) - Just Refuse To Enable AP Operation at Any Non-2.4GHz Frequency.

 

I Suspect That The 'Location Aware Regulatory' (LAR) Driver/FW Functionality Is To Blame.

 

Any Ideas ?

 

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Here's Some Extra Details -

 

'emerge --info' (Relevant) Output :

 

 

Portage 3.0.20 (python 3.9.5-final-0, default/linux/amd64/17.0/musl/hardened, gcc-10.3.0, musl-1.2.2-r2, 5.12.12-gentoo x86_64)
=================================================================
System uname: Linux-5.12.12-gentoo-x86_64-Intel-R-_Celeron-R-_J4125_CPU_@_2.00GHz-with-libc
KiB Mem:    16136948 total,  15649876 free
KiB Swap:   16777212 total,  16777212 free
Timestamp of repository gentoo: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 01:30:01 +0000
Head commit of repository gentoo: e9053729cf3bbc30c1728a295294eb514f84971d
sh bash 5.1_p8
ld GNU ld (Gentoo 2.36.1 p3) 2.36.1
app-shells/bash:          5.1_p8::gentoo
dev-lang/perl:            5.34.0::gentoo
dev-lang/python:          2.7.18_p7::gentoo, 3.8.10_p2::gentoo, 3.9.5_p2::gentoo
dev-lang/rust:            1.47.0-r1::musl
dev-util/cmake:           3.20.4::gentoo
sys-apps/baselayout:      2.7-r3::gentoo
sys-apps/openrc:          0.43.3::gentoo
sys-apps/sandbox:         2.24::gentoo
sys-devel/autoconf:       2.13-r1::gentoo, 2.69-r5::gentoo
sys-devel/automake:       1.16.3-r1::gentoo
sys-devel/binutils:       2.35.2::gentoo, 2.36.1-r1::gentoo
sys-devel/gcc:            9.3.0-r2::gentoo, 10.3.0-r1::gentoo
sys-devel/gcc-config:     2.4::gentoo
sys-devel/libtool:        2.4.6-r6::gentoo
sys-devel/make:           4.3::gentoo
sys-kernel/linux-headers: 5.12::gentoo (virtual/os-headers)
sys-libs/musl:            1.2.2-r2::gentoo

<...>

CBUILD="x86_64-gentoo-linux-musl"
CFLAGS="-O3 -march=haswell -mtune=goldmont-plus -maes -mno-avx -mno-avx2 -mno-f16c -mno-fma -mno-bmi -mno-bmi2 -mno-lzcnt -mno-hle -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-gentoo-linux-musl"
CXXFLAGS="-O3 -march=haswell -mtune=goldmont-plus -maes -mno-avx -mno-avx2 -mno-f16c -mno-fma -mno-bmi -mno-bmi2 -mno-lzcnt -mno-hle -pipe"

 

 

( The Bit Unusual CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS Are Set To Enable OS Building/Testing on a Regular PC ) .

 

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hostapd.conf - working cfg. ( hostapd v2.9 ; 2.4GHz Frequencies Only ) :

 

 

ssid=WLAN-Test1
interface=wlo1
bridge=br0
driver=nl80211
auth_algs=1
country_code=IL
country3=0x49 # Indoor Operation Setting
channel=6
ieee80211d=1
ieee80211h=1
hw_mode=g
ieee80211n=1
ieee80211ac=1
acs_num_scans=10
ht_capab=[HT40-][HT40+][SHORT-GI-20][SHORT-GI-40][DSSS_CCK-40][LDPC][TX-STBC]
vht_capab=
require_ht=0
require_vht=0
vht_oper_chwidth=0
wmm_enabled=1
logger_stdout=-1
logger_stdout_level=0
max_num_sta=25
wpa=2
wpa_key_mgmt=WPA-PSK SAE
wpa_pairwise=CCMP GCMP GCMP-256
wpa_group_rekey=7200
wpa_passphrase=DEADBEEF

 

 

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hostapd.conf - non-working cfg. ( hostapd v2.9  ) :

 

 

channel=149
hw_mode=a

 

 

( a Differential cfg. ; Other Channel Selection - Manually or By 'ACS' Auto-Tuning - Does Not Change The Result )

 

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'hostapd' Output - non-working cfg. - sample #1 :

 

 

wlo1: interface state UNINITIALIZED->COUNTRY_UPDATE
Channel 149 (primary) not allowed for AP mode, flags: 0x20053 NO-IR
wlo1: IEEE 802.11 Configured channel (149) not found from the channel list of current mode (2) IEEE 802.11a
wlo1: IEEE 802.11 Hardware does not support configured channel
Could not select hw_mode and channel. (-3)
wlo1: interface state COUNTRY_UPDATE->DISABLED
wlo1: AP-DISABLED 
wlo1: Unable to setup interface.
wlo1: interface state DISABLED->DISABLED
wlo1: AP-DISABLED 
wlo1: CTRL-EVENT-TERMINATING 
hostapd_free_hapd_data: Interface wlo1 wasn't started
nl80211: deinit ifname=wlo1 disabled_11b_rates=0

 

 

( The 'hostapd' Process Won't Start )

 

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'iw reg get' Output - sample #1 :

 

 

global
country IL: DFS-ETSI
        (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (N/A, 20), (N/A)
        (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (N/A, 23), (N/A), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
        (5250 - 5350 @ 80), (N/A, 23), (0 ms), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, AUTO-BW

phy#0 (self-managed)
country 00: DFS-UNSET
        (2402 - 2437 @ 40), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-80MHZ, NO-160MHZ
        (2422 - 2462 @ 40), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, NO-80MHZ, NO-160MHZ
        (2447 - 2482 @ 40), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-80MHZ, NO-160MHZ
        (5170 - 5190 @ 160), (6, 22), (N/A), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, IR-CONCURRENT, NO-HT40MINUS, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5190 - 5210 @ 160), (6, 22), (N/A), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, IR-CONCURRENT, NO-HT40PLUS, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5210 - 5230 @ 160), (6, 22), (N/A), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, IR-CONCURRENT, NO-HT40MINUS, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5230 - 5250 @ 160), (6, 22), (N/A), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, IR-CONCURRENT, NO-HT40PLUS, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5250 - 5270 @ 160), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5270 - 5290 @ 160), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5290 - 5310 @ 160), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5310 - 5330 @ 160), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5490 - 5510 @ 240), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5510 - 5530 @ 240), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5530 - 5550 @ 240), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5550 - 5570 @ 240), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5570 - 5590 @ 240), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5590 - 5610 @ 240), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5610 - 5630 @ 240), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5630 - 5650 @ 240), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5650 - 5670 @ 80), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-160MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5670 - 5690 @ 80), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-160MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5690 - 5710 @ 80), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-160MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5710 - 5730 @ 80), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-160MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5735 - 5755 @ 80), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, IR-CONCURRENT, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-160MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5755 - 5775 @ 80), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, IR-CONCURRENT, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-160MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5775 - 5795 @ 80), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, IR-CONCURRENT, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-160MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5795 - 5815 @ 80), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, IR-CONCURRENT, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-160MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN
        (5815 - 5835 @ 40), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, IR-CONCURRENT, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-80MHZ, NO-160MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN

 

 

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AndrewG_Intel
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Hello @IAmMrZ

Thank you for posting on the Intel® communities.

In order to check this further, could you please provide the following information?


1- We understand this is a new deployment. Just to make sure, is the behavior occurring since the very first day? Or did it work fine before at any moment?

2- What are the maker/manufacturer and the exact/full model of this 'Intel Celeron J4125' based 'NUC' Like System"?


3- We understand that you integrated the wireless card into the system. Is this correct?

As per the Regulatory Information Regarding Wireless Hardware Installation or Upgrade, since Installation or use of Intel® Wireless Adapters is subject to country-specific legal regulations (e.g.: some countries require the Intel® Wireless Adapters to be certified with the antenna that is intended to be used together in the system, while some countries require the Intel® Wireless Adapter to be certified at the full system level), did you check/confirm with your computer manufacturer (OEM) regarding full compatibility with this wireless integration?


4- Please type the following command to the terminal and provide us with the outcome: # lspci


5- Just for testing purposes (and if this is possible for you), please confirm if you are able to replicate the issue while using Ubuntu? If yes, please provide details.


Best regards,

Andrew G.

Intel Customer Support Technician


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IAmMrZ
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Hello @AndrewG_Intel !

 

1) It Never Operated Without The Herein Reported Issue.

 

2) It's a "White Box" System. See The Attached Photo For It's Physical Appearance.

 

3) I Did Integrate The System, Using Specifically-Matched RF Parts (e.g.: Antenna Pigtail Cables & Antennas). Also, I Assume Full Responsibility For It's Compliance of Local Regulatory.

 

4) 'lspci' Output:

 

00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Gemini Lake Host Bridge [8086:31f0] (rev 06)
00:00.1 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework Processor Participant [8086:318c] (rev 06)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation GeminiLake [UHD Graphics 600] [8086:3185] (rev 06)
00:0e.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor High Definition Audio [8086:3198] (rev 06)
00:0f.0 Communication controller [0780]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Trusted Execution Engine Interface [8086:319a] (rev 06)
00:12.0 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor SATA Controller [8086:31e3] (rev 06)
00:13.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Gemini Lake PCI Express Root Port [8086:31d8] (rev f6)
00:13.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Gemini Lake PCI Express Root Port [8086:31d9] (rev f6)
00:13.2 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Gemini Lake PCI Express Root Port [8086:31da] (rev f6)
00:15.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor USB 3.0 xHCI Controller [8086:31a8] (rev 06)
00:16.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO I2C Host Controller [8086:31ac] (rev 06)
00:16.1 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO I2C Host Controller [8086:31ae] (rev 06)
00:16.2 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:31b0] (rev 06)
00:16.3 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:31b2] (rev 06)
00:17.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:31b4] (rev 06)
00:17.1 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:31b6] (rev 06)
00:17.2 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:31b8] (rev 06)
00:17.3 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:31ba] (rev 06)
00:18.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO UART Host Controller [8086:31bc] (rev 06)
00:18.1 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO UART Host Controller [8086:31be] (rev 06)
00:18.2 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO UART Host Controller [8086:31c0] (rev 06)
00:18.3 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO UART Host Controller [8086:31ee] (rev 06)
00:19.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO SPI Host Controller [8086:31c2] (rev 06)
00:19.1 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO SPI Host Controller [8086:31c4] (rev 06)
00:19.2 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO SPI Host Controller [8086:31c6] (rev 06)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor LPC Controller [8086:31e8] (rev 06)
00:1f.1 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Gaussian Mixture Model [8086:31d4] (rev 06)
01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev 15)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev 15)
03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz [8086:2725] (rev 1a)

 

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03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz [8086:2725] (rev 1a)
        DeviceName: Onboard - RTK Ethernet
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX210 160MHz [8086:0024]
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 20
        IOMMU group: 16
        Region 0: Memory at c1000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: [c8] Power Management version 3
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
                Status: D0 NoSoftRst+ PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
        Capabilities: [d0] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
                Address: 0000000000000000  Data: 0000
        Capabilities: [40] Express (v2) Endpoint, MSI 00
                DevCap: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s <512ns, L1 unlimited
                        ExtTag- AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE+ FLReset+ SlotPowerLimit 0.000W
                DevCtl: CorrErr- NonFatalErr- FatalErr- UnsupReq-
                        RlxdOrd+ ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr+ NoSnoop+ FLReset-
                        MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
                DevSta: CorrErr- NonFatalErr- FatalErr- UnsupReq- AuxPwr+ TransPend-
                LnkCap: Port #0, Speed 5GT/s, Width x1, ASPM L1, Exit Latency L1 <8us
                        ClockPM+ Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot- ASPMOptComp+
                LnkCtl: ASPM L1 Enabled; RCB 64 bytes, Disabled- CommClk+
                        ExtSynch- ClockPM+ AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
                LnkSta: Speed 5GT/s (ok), Width x1 (ok)
                        TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
                DevCap2: Completion Timeout: Range B, TimeoutDis+ NROPrPrP- LTR+
                         10BitTagComp- 10BitTagReq- OBFF Via WAKE#, ExtFmt- EETLPPrefix-
                         EmergencyPowerReduction Not Supported, EmergencyPowerReductionInit-
                         FRS- TPHComp- ExtTPHComp-
                         AtomicOpsCap: 32bit- 64bit- 128bitCAS-
                DevCtl2: Completion Timeout: 16ms to 55ms, TimeoutDis- LTR+ OBFF Disabled,
                         AtomicOpsCtl: ReqEn-
                LnkCap2: Supported Link Speeds: 2.5-5GT/s, Crosslink- Retimer- 2Retimers- DRS-
                LnkCtl2: Target Link Speed: 5GT/s, EnterCompliance- SpeedDis-
                         Transmit Margin: Normal Operating Range, EnterModifiedCompliance- ComplianceSOS-
                         Compliance De-emphasis: -6dB
                LnkSta2: Current De-emphasis Level: -3.5dB, EqualizationComplete- EqualizationPhase1-
                         EqualizationPhase2- EqualizationPhase3- LinkEqualizationRequest-
                         Retimer- 2Retimers- CrosslinkRes: unsupported
        Capabilities: [80] MSI-X: Enable+ Count=16 Masked-
                Vector table: BAR=0 offset=00002000
                PBA: BAR=0 offset=00003000
        Capabilities: [100 v1] Advanced Error Reporting
                UESta:  DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP- ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol-
                UEMsk:  DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP- ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol-
                UESvrt: DLP+ SDES+ TLP- FCP+ CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF+ MalfTLP+ ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol-
                CESta:  RxErr- BadTLP- BadDLLP- Rollover- Timeout- AdvNonFatalErr-
                CEMsk:  RxErr- BadTLP- BadDLLP- Rollover- Timeout- AdvNonFatalErr+
                AERCap: First Error Pointer: 00, ECRCGenCap- ECRCGenEn- ECRCChkCap- ECRCChkEn-
                        MultHdrRecCap- MultHdrRecEn- TLPPfxPres- HdrLogCap-
                HeaderLog: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
        Capabilities: [14c v1] Latency Tolerance Reporting
                Max snoop latency: 3145728ns
                Max no snoop latency: 3145728ns
        Capabilities: [154 v1] L1 PM Substates
                L1SubCap: PCI-PM_L1.2+ PCI-PM_L1.1+ ASPM_L1.2+ ASPM_L1.1+ L1_PM_Substates+
                          PortCommonModeRestoreTime=30us PortTPowerOnTime=18us
                L1SubCtl1: PCI-PM_L1.2+ PCI-PM_L1.1+ ASPM_L1.2+ ASPM_L1.1+
                           T_CommonMode=0us LTR1.2_Threshold=32768ns
                L1SubCtl2: T_PwrOn=18us
        Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi
        Kernel modules: iwlwifi

 

 

5) Good Idea. I'll Try Testing It - Using 'Knoppix' (V9.1DVD-2021-01-25-EN) 'Live' OS, If I Find That's Possible ( Otherwise I'll Try Co-Installing a 'Ubuntu' OS ) & Report My Findings.

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IAmMrZ
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Hi There @AndrewG_Intel  ! : )

 

1- It's All Brand-New Hardware & Operation Was Always With The Herein Reported Issue, Right From The Start.

 

2- It's a White Box System. For Any Specific Detail - Just Ask ! : )

 

3- Yes: I Did Integrated The Wireless Card Into The System. The Relevant RF Parts - e.g.: Antenna 'Pigtail' Cables & Antennas - Are Specifically Matched To This Wireless Card. As Per Local Comms Regulation, I Assume Responsiblity For The System Compliance With It.

 

4- 'lspci' Output :

00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Gemini Lake Host Bridge [8086:31f0] (rev 06)
00:00.1 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework Processor Participant [8086:318c] (rev 06)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation GeminiLake [UHD Graphics 600] [8086:3185] (rev 06)
00:0e.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor High Definition Audio [8086:3198] (rev 06)
00:0f.0 Communication controller [0780]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Trusted Execution Engine Interface [8086:319a] (rev 06)
00:12.0 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor SATA Controller [8086:31e3] (rev 06)
00:13.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Gemini Lake PCI Express Root Port [8086:31d8] (rev f6)
00:13.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Gemini Lake PCI Express Root Port [8086:31d9] (rev f6)
00:13.2 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Gemini Lake PCI Express Root Port [8086:31da] (rev f6)
00:15.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor USB 3.0 xHCI Controller [8086:31a8] (rev 06)
00:16.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO I2C Host Controller [8086:31ac] (rev 06)
00:16.1 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO I2C Host Controller [8086:31ae] (rev 06)
00:16.2 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:31b0] (rev 06)
00:16.3 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:31b2] (rev 06)
00:17.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:31b4] (rev 06)
00:17.1 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:31b6] (rev 06)
00:17.2 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:31b8] (rev 06)
00:17.3 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:31ba] (rev 06)
00:18.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO UART Host Controller [8086:31bc] (rev 06)
00:18.1 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO UART Host Controller [8086:31be] (rev 06)
00:18.2 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO UART Host Controller [8086:31c0] (rev 06)
00:18.3 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO UART Host Controller [8086:31ee] (rev 06)
00:19.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO SPI Host Controller [8086:31c2] (rev 06)
00:19.1 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO SPI Host Controller [8086:31c4] (rev 06)
00:19.2 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO SPI Host Controller [8086:31c6] (rev 06)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor LPC Controller [8086:31e8] (rev 06)
00:1f.1 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Gaussian Mixture Model [8086:31d4] (rev 06)
01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev 15)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev 15)
03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz [8086:2725] (rev 1a)

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03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz [8086:2725] (rev 1a)
        DeviceName: Onboard - RTK Ethernet
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX210 160MHz [8086:0024]
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 20
        IOMMU group: 16
        Region 0: Memory at c1000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: [c8] Power Management version 3
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
                Status: D0 NoSoftRst+ PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
        Capabilities: [d0] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
                Address: 0000000000000000  Data: 0000
        Capabilities: [40] Express (v2) Endpoint, MSI 00
                DevCap: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s <512ns, L1 unlimited
                        ExtTag- AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE+ FLReset+ SlotPowerLimit 0.000W
                DevCtl: CorrErr- NonFatalErr- FatalErr- UnsupReq-
                        RlxdOrd+ ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr+ NoSnoop+ FLReset-
                        MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
                DevSta: CorrErr- NonFatalErr- FatalErr- UnsupReq- AuxPwr+ TransPend-
                LnkCap: Port #0, Speed 5GT/s, Width x1, ASPM L1, Exit Latency L1 <8us
                        ClockPM+ Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot- ASPMOptComp+
                LnkCtl: ASPM L1 Enabled; RCB 64 bytes, Disabled- CommClk+
                        ExtSynch- ClockPM+ AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
                LnkSta: Speed 5GT/s (ok), Width x1 (ok)
                        TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
                DevCap2: Completion Timeout: Range B, TimeoutDis+ NROPrPrP- LTR+
                         10BitTagComp- 10BitTagReq- OBFF Via WAKE#, ExtFmt- EETLPPrefix-
                         EmergencyPowerReduction Not Supported, EmergencyPowerReductionInit-
                         FRS- TPHComp- ExtTPHComp-
                         AtomicOpsCap: 32bit- 64bit- 128bitCAS-
                DevCtl2: Completion Timeout: 16ms to 55ms, TimeoutDis- LTR+ OBFF Disabled,
                         AtomicOpsCtl: ReqEn-
                LnkCap2: Supported Link Speeds: 2.5-5GT/s, Crosslink- Retimer- 2Retimers- DRS-
                LnkCtl2: Target Link Speed: 5GT/s, EnterCompliance- SpeedDis-
                         Transmit Margin: Normal Operating Range, EnterModifiedCompliance- ComplianceSOS-
                         Compliance De-emphasis: -6dB
                LnkSta2: Current De-emphasis Level: -3.5dB, EqualizationComplete- EqualizationPhase1-
                         EqualizationPhase2- EqualizationPhase3- LinkEqualizationRequest-
                         Retimer- 2Retimers- CrosslinkRes: unsupported
        Capabilities: [80] MSI-X: Enable+ Count=16 Masked-
                Vector table: BAR=0 offset=00002000
                PBA: BAR=0 offset=00003000
        Capabilities: [100 v1] Advanced Error Reporting
                UESta:  DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP- ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol-
                UEMsk:  DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP- ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol-
                UESvrt: DLP+ SDES+ TLP- FCP+ CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF+ MalfTLP+ ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol-
                CESta:  RxErr- BadTLP- BadDLLP- Rollover- Timeout- AdvNonFatalErr-
                CEMsk:  RxErr- BadTLP- BadDLLP- Rollover- Timeout- AdvNonFatalErr+
                AERCap: First Error Pointer: 00, ECRCGenCap- ECRCGenEn- ECRCChkCap- ECRCChkEn-
                        MultHdrRecCap- MultHdrRecEn- TLPPfxPres- HdrLogCap-
                HeaderLog: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
        Capabilities: [14c v1] Latency Tolerance Reporting
                Max snoop latency: 3145728ns
                Max no snoop latency: 3145728ns
        Capabilities: [154 v1] L1 PM Substates
                L1SubCap: PCI-PM_L1.2+ PCI-PM_L1.1+ ASPM_L1.2+ ASPM_L1.1+ L1_PM_Substates+
                          PortCommonModeRestoreTime=30us PortTPowerOnTime=18us
                L1SubCtl1: PCI-PM_L1.2+ PCI-PM_L1.1+ ASPM_L1.2+ ASPM_L1.1+
                           T_CommonMode=0us LTR1.2_Threshold=32768ns
                L1SubCtl2: T_PwrOn=18us
        Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi
        Kernel modules: iwlwifi

 

5- That's a Good Idea. I Did Try Both 'Knoppix' (V9.1DVD-2021-01-25-EN) & 'Kubuntu' (21.04) OS, But To No Avail: The Issue Persisted On Both - Operation On Any Non-2.4GHz Frequency Was Not Possible !

See The Attached 'output.zip' For Some Gathered Output ('dmesg', 'lspci', 'iw list' & 'iw reg get').

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Hi There @AndrewG_Intel  ! : )

 

1- It's All Brand-New Hardware & Operation Was Always With The Herein Reported Issue, Right From The Start.

 

2- It's a White Box, Unbranded System. For Any Specific Detail - Just Ask ! : )

 

3- Yes: I Did Integrate The Wireless Card Into The System. The Relevant RF Parts - e.g.: Antenna 'Pigtail' Cables & Antennas - Are Specifically Matched To This Wireless Card. As Per Local Comms Regulation, I Assume Responsiblity For The System Compliance With It.

 

4- The 'https://community.intel.com/' System Just Won't Let Me Post The 'lspci' Output ! So Here It Is: https://pastebin.com/fyuUQEdg

 

5- That's a Good Idea. I Did Try Both 'Knoppix' (V9.1DVD-2021-01-25-EN) & 'Kubuntu' (21.04) OS, But To No Avail: The Issue Persisted On Both - Operation On Any Non-2.4GHz Frequency Was Not Possible !

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Hi There @AndrewG_Intel  ! : )

 

1- It's All Brand-New Hardware & Operation Was Always With The Herein Reported Issue, Right From The Start.

 

2- It's a White Box, Unbranded System. For Any Specific Detail - Just Ask ! : )

 

3- Yes: I Did Integrate The Wireless Card Into The System. The Relevant RF Parts - e.g.: Antenna 'Pigtail' Cables & Antennas - Are Specifically Matched To This Wireless Card. As Per Local Comms Regulation, I Assume Responsiblity For The System Compliance With It.

 

4- 'lspci' Output :

00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Gemini Lake Host Bridge [8086:31f0] (rev 06)
00:00.1 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework Processor Participant [8086:318c] (rev 06)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation GeminiLake [UHD Graphics 600] [8086:3185] (rev 06)
00:0e.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor High Definition Audio [8086:3198] (rev 06)
00:0f.0 Communication controller [0780]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Trusted Execution Engine Interface [8086:319a] (rev 06)
00:12.0 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor SATA Controller [8086:31e3] (rev 06)
00:13.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Gemini Lake PCI Express Root Port [8086:31d8] (rev f6)
00:13.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Gemini Lake PCI Express Root Port [8086:31d9] (rev f6)
00:13.2 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Gemini Lake PCI Express Root Port [8086:31da] (rev f6)
00:15.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor USB 3.0 xHCI Controller [8086:31a8] (rev 06)
00:16.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO I2C Host Controller [8086:31ac] (rev 06)
00:16.1 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO I2C Host Controller [8086:31ae] (rev 06)
00:16.2 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:31b0] (rev 06)
00:16.3 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:31b2] (rev 06)
00:17.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:31b4] (rev 06)
00:17.1 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:31b6] (rev 06)
00:17.2 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:31b8] (rev 06)
00:17.3 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:31ba] (rev 06)
00:18.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO UART Host Controller [8086:31bc] (rev 06)
00:18.1 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO UART Host Controller [8086:31be] (rev 06)
00:18.2 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO UART Host Controller [8086:31c0] (rev 06)
00:18.3 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO UART Host Controller [8086:31ee] (rev 06)
00:19.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO SPI Host Controller [8086:31c2] (rev 06)
00:19.1 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO SPI Host Controller [8086:31c4] (rev 06)
00:19.2 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Serial IO SPI Host Controller [8086:31c6] (rev 06)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor LPC Controller [8086:31e8] (rev 06)
00:1f.1 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor Gaussian Mixture Model [8086:31d4] (rev 06)
01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev 15)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev 15)
03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz [8086:2725] (rev 1a)

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03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz [8086:2725] (rev 1a)
DeviceName: Onboard - RTK Ethernet
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX210 160MHz [8086:0024]
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 20
IOMMU group: 16
Region 0: Memory at c1000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: [c8] Power Management version 3
Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
Status: D0 NoSoftRst+ PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Capabilities: [d0] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
Address: 0000000000000000 Data: 0000
Capabilities: [40] Express (v2) Endpoint, MSI 00
DevCap: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s <512ns, L1 unlimited
ExtTag- AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE+ FLReset+ SlotPowerLimit 0.000W
DevCtl: CorrErr- NonFatalErr- FatalErr- UnsupReq-
RlxdOrd+ ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr+ NoSnoop+ FLReset-
MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
DevSta: CorrErr- NonFatalErr- FatalErr- UnsupReq- AuxPwr+ TransPend-
LnkCap: Port #0, Speed 5GT/s, Width x1, ASPM L1, Exit Latency L1 <8us
ClockPM+ Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot- ASPMOptComp+
LnkCtl: ASPM L1 Enabled; RCB 64 bytes, Disabled- CommClk+
ExtSynch- ClockPM+ AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
LnkSta: Speed 5GT/s (ok), Width x1 (ok)
TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
DevCap2: Completion Timeout: Range B, TimeoutDis+ NROPrPrP- LTR+
10BitTagComp- 10BitTagReq- OBFF Via WAKE#, ExtFmt- EETLPPrefix-
EmergencyPowerReduction Not Supported, EmergencyPowerReductionInit-
FRS- TPHComp- ExtTPHComp-
AtomicOpsCap: 32bit- 64bit- 128bitCAS-
DevCtl2: Completion Timeout: 16ms to 55ms, TimeoutDis- LTR+ OBFF Disabled,
AtomicOpsCtl: ReqEn-
LnkCap2: Supported Link Speeds: 2.5-5GT/s, Crosslink- Retimer- 2Retimers- DRS-
LnkCtl2: Target Link Speed: 5GT/s, EnterCompliance- SpeedDis-
Transmit Margin: Normal Operating Range, EnterModifiedCompliance- ComplianceSOS-
Compliance De-emphasis: -6dB
LnkSta2: Current De-emphasis Level: -3.5dB, EqualizationComplete- EqualizationPhase1-
EqualizationPhase2- EqualizationPhase3- LinkEqualizationRequest-
Retimer- 2Retimers- CrosslinkRes: unsupported
Capabilities: [80] MSI-X: Enable+ Count=16 Masked-
Vector table: BAR=0 offset=00002000
PBA: BAR=0 offset=00003000
Capabilities: [100 v1] Advanced Error Reporting
UESta: DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP- ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol-
UEMsk: DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP- ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol-
UESvrt: DLP+ SDES+ TLP- FCP+ CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF+ MalfTLP+ ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol-
CESta: RxErr- BadTLP- BadDLLP- Rollover- Timeout- AdvNonFatalErr-
CEMsk: RxErr- BadTLP- BadDLLP- Rollover- Timeout- AdvNonFatalErr+
AERCap: First Error Pointer: 00, ECRCGenCap- ECRCGenEn- ECRCChkCap- ECRCChkEn-
MultHdrRecCap- MultHdrRecEn- TLPPfxPres- HdrLogCap-
HeaderLog: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Capabilities: [14c v1] Latency Tolerance Reporting
Max snoop latency: 3145728ns
Max no snoop latency: 3145728ns
Capabilities: [154 v1] L1 PM Substates
L1SubCap: PCI-PM_L1.2+ PCI-PM_L1.1+ ASPM_L1.2+ ASPM_L1.1+ L1_PM_Substates+
PortCommonModeRestoreTime=30us PortTPowerOnTime=18us
L1SubCtl1: PCI-PM_L1.2+ PCI-PM_L1.1+ ASPM_L1.2+ ASPM_L1.1+
T_CommonMode=0us LTR1.2_Threshold=32768ns
L1SubCtl2: T_PwrOn=18us
Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi
Kernel modules: iwlwifi

 

5- That's a Good Idea. I Did Try Both 'Knoppix' (V9.1DVD-2021-01-25-EN) & 'Kubuntu' (21.04) OS, But To No Avail: The Issue Persisted On Both - Operation On Any Non-2.4GHz Frequency Was Not Possible !

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Hello IAmMrZ

Thank you for your response and for the details provided. Please allow us to look into this behavior and we will be posting back in the thread as soon as more details are available or if additional information is required.


Best regards,

Andrew G.

Intel Customer Support Technician


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@AndrewG_Intel : Would The System' Linux Kernel Configuration ( '.config' File ) - Be Useful For Your Investigation ?

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@AndrewG_Intel: Any News On This Issue ? I'm Not All-That-Thrilled To Have Got a Brand-New, Well Paid-For & Yet Crippled Hardware...

 

BTW, The Issue Is Still There - Just as Before, With Linux Kernel v5.13.1 + Latest Firmware :

[    5.496436] iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: TLV_FW_FSEQ_VERSION: FSEQ Version: 0.0.2.25
[    5.498111] iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: loaded firmware version 63.c04f3485.0 ty-a0-gf-a0-63.ucode op_mode iwlmvm
[    5.521869] iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Wi-Fi 6 AX210 160MHz, REV=0x420
[    5.714382] iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: loaded PNVM version 0x324cd670

 

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Hello IAmMrZ

Thank you for your patience in this matter.

After checking this further, we would like to inform you that the engineering team confirmed that Intel® wireless products follow regulatory compliance and it is expected that AP mode cannot be enabled in non-2.4 GHz channels. We hope this clarifies your concerns.


Best regards,

Andrew G.

Intel Customer Support Technician


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I can't believe it, but it is legal for me to use 5G in China. Why can't I use 5G in China?

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@AndrewG_Intel:

That's Just Corporate Bad Attitude All-Around.

First, The Emanating Paternalism Don't Belong In Year 2021 & Most Probably Undermine My So-Called 'Consumer Rights', Too: While 'Intel' Might Suggest How I Operate a Product I Own, 'Intel' Generally Has No Right To Unilaterally Disable Functionality - Especially Core Functionality - The Product Was Positively Advertised To Feature (e.g.: Operation on '5GHz' Frequencies). Even More So By The Both Vague, Unstable & Unpredictable Means You Utilize.

Second, You Should Know Better Than To Make a "Intel ... follow regulatory compliance" Claim Here - Which Is Plainly Incorrect.

Fact Is That 'Intel' Make Law For Itself: On One Hand, 'Intel' Uses an Internal Firmware-uCode Hidden Regulatory Compliance Database (Unlike The Common Open 'wireless-regdb'). While On The Other Hand, That Hidden Database Is Utterly Out-of-Phase With Current Local Comms. Regulations Here In ISRAEL, Which Permit Operation on Many '5GHz' Frequencies (Regardless of 'Mode' - Be It 'Station' or 'AP').

For Example, See The Underside Label of a Commercially Available 'CPE' - of The Biggest Comms. Infrastructure Company In The Country (a 'Bezeq' Company - 'Be Router/AP', Model 'HT-138S') :

Bezeq - Be Router/AP (Model: HT-138S, Model Year: 2017)Bezeq - Be Router/AP (Model: HT-138S, Model Year: 2017)

& This Is The Local Comms. Authority Regulatory Permit For It - Clearly Showing a '5GHz' Freq. Operation Permission:

MoC - approval_of_wireless_equipment_importedMoC - approval_of_wireless_equipment_imported

Government Data - p1.png

( That List Is Freely Available For Download - Here: https://data.gov.il/dataset/items-appproved-by-personal-import ) .

Beside That Day-Clear Example, See The Attached Copy of The Current Local Law (Regulations) - Effective From 01/04/2021, as a PDF File: Clearly Allowing Both '2.4GHz' & '5GHz' Freq. Operation ( p. 2841-2846 ; Item#: 49, 55, 60, 62, 67, 68 ( #68 Replaces #67 - By 01/10/2021 ) ).

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Oh, One More Thing: Even On '2.4GHz' Freq. That Card Doesn't Function To It's Full Potential...

 

'iw list' output:

 

Wiphy phy0
        wiphy index: 0
        max # scan SSIDs: 20
        max scan IEs length: 365 bytes
        max # sched scan SSIDs: 20
        max # match sets: 8
        Retry short limit: 7
        Retry long limit: 4
        Coverage class: 0 (up to 0m)
        Device supports RSN-IBSS.
        Device supports AP-side u-APSD.
        Device supports T-DLS.
        Supported Ciphers:
                * WEP40 (00-0f-ac:1)
                * WEP104 (00-0f-ac:5)
                * TKIP (00-0f-ac:2)
                * CCMP-128 (00-0f-ac:4)
                * GCMP-128 (00-0f-ac:8)
                * GCMP-256 (00-0f-ac:9)
                * CMAC (00-0f-ac:6)
                * GMAC-128 (00-0f-ac:11)
                * GMAC-256 (00-0f-ac:12)
        Available Antennas: TX 0x3 RX 0x3
        Configured Antennas: TX 0x3 RX 0x3
        Supported interface modes:
                 * IBSS
                 * managed
                 * AP
                 * AP/VLAN
                 * monitor
                 * P2P-client
                 * P2P-GO
                 * P2P-device
        Band 1:
                Capabilities: 0x19ef
                        RX LDPC
                        HT20/HT40
                        SM Power Save disabled
                        RX HT20 SGI
                        RX HT40 SGI
                        TX STBC
                        RX STBC 1-stream
                        Max AMSDU length: 7935 bytes
                        DSSS/CCK HT40
                Maximum RX AMPDU length 65535 bytes (exponent: 0x003)
                Minimum RX AMPDU time spacing: 4 usec (0x05)
                HT Max RX data rate: 300 Mbps
                HT TX/RX MCS rate indexes supported: 0-15

 

 

While Clearly Showing The Hardware Is Capable of a 'HT TX/RX MCS rate indexes supported: 0-15',

It Only Operates on a 'MCS rate' of '0-11':

 

 

                HE Iftypes: AP
                        HE MAC Capabilities (0x780112080840):
                                +HTC HE Supported
                                Trigger Frame MAC Padding Duration: 2
                                Multi-TID Aggregation Support: 7
                                BSR
                                OM Control
                                Maximum A-MPDU Length Exponent: 2
                                A-MSDU in A-MPDU
                                UL 2x996-Tone RU
                        HE PHY Capabilities: (0x0e200200fd09800ccff000):
                                HE40/2.4GHz
                                HE40/HE80/5GHz
                                HE160/5GHz
                                LDPC Coding in Payload
                                NDP with 4x HE-LTF and 3.2us GI
                                SU Beamformee
                                Beamformee STS <= 80Mhz: 7
                                Beamformee STS > 80Mhz: 7
                                Sounding Dimensions <= 80Mhz: 1
                                Sounding Dimensions > 80Mhz: 1
                                PPE Threshold Present
                                HE SU PPDU & HE PPDU 4x HE-LTF 0.8us GI
                                Max NC: 1
                                HE ER SU PPDU 4x HE-LTF 0.8us GI
                                20MHz in 40MHz HE PPDU 2.4GHz
                                20MHz in 160/80+80MHz HE PPDU
                                80MHz in 160/80+80MHz HE PPDU
                                DCM Max BW: 3
                                RX Full BW SU Using HE MU PPDU with Compression SIGB
                                RX Full BW SU Using HE MU PPDU with Non-Compression SIGB
                        HE RX MCS and NSS set <= 80 MHz
                                         1 streams: MCS 0-11
                                         2 streams: MCS 0-11
<...>
                        HE TX MCS and NSS set <= 80 MHz
                                         1 streams: MCS 0-11
                                         2 streams: MCS 0-11
<...>
                        HE RX MCS and NSS set 160 MHz
                                         1 streams: MCS 0-11
                                         2 streams: MCS 0-11
<...>
                        HE TX MCS and NSS set 160 MHz
                                         1 streams: MCS 0-11
                                         2 streams: MCS 0-11
<...>
                        PPE Threshold 0x61 0x1c 0xc7 0x71 
                Bitrates (non-HT):
                        * 1.0 Mbps
                        * 2.0 Mbps (short preamble supported)
                        * 5.5 Mbps (short preamble supported)
                        * 11.0 Mbps (short preamble supported)
                        * 6.0 Mbps
                        * 9.0 Mbps
                        * 12.0 Mbps
                        * 18.0 Mbps
                        * 24.0 Mbps
                        * 36.0 Mbps
                        * 48.0 Mbps
                        * 54.0 Mbps
                Frequencies:
                        * 2412 MHz [1] (22.0 dBm)
                        * 2417 MHz [2] (22.0 dBm)
                        * 2422 MHz [3] (22.0 dBm)
                        * 2427 MHz [4] (22.0 dBm)
                        * 2432 MHz [5] (22.0 dBm)
                        * 2437 MHz [6] (22.0 dBm)
                        * 2442 MHz [7] (22.0 dBm)
                        * 2447 MHz [8] (22.0 dBm)
                        * 2452 MHz [9] (22.0 dBm)
                        * 2457 MHz [10] (22.0 dBm)
                        * 2462 MHz [11] (22.0 dBm)
                        * 2467 MHz [12] (22.0 dBm)
                        * 2472 MHz [13] (22.0 dBm)
                        * 2484 MHz [14] (disabled)

 

 

& That's What 'Wikipedia' Has To Say About That... : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n-2009#Data_rates

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Hello IAmMrZ

Thank you for your response and for all the feedback provided. We are reviewing all this information with our team. Please allow us more time to check this further and we will be posting back as soon as more details are available. Thank you for your understanding and efforts.


Best regards,

Andrew G.

Intel Customer Support Technician


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SteveR
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I can replicate this problem. I have an AX210NGW based card which so far I've only been able to operate as a 2.4GHz single AP with hostapd. I bought it to use in a router for multi SSID wifi 6E. No matter what I try it won't set the channel, same hostapd output as above. I've carefully matched channels available to the card from iw list to channels possible from regulation with iw reg get. Has any progress been made on making this work?

I likewise don't accept that there's regulatory issues with operating an AP on the 5GHz band as here, as I expect in the rest of the world, all modern wifi AP's operate on 5GHz.

I note that this chip can't operate multi/virtual SSID either. iw list shows:

 

valid interface combinations:
     * #{ managed } <= 1, #{ AP, P2P-client, P2P-GO } <= 1, #{ P2P-device } <= 1,


AP<=1. Is that a hardware limitation or a software limitation with the iwlwifi kernel module? And if software any plans to fix it?

I bought this as a high end card thinking it would be well supported in Linux as it's an intel chipset. Myth shattered. I have another AX200 based card has exactly the same problems.

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IAmMrZ
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@SteveR: You Probably Shouldn't Count On 'Intel' To Fix Their Broken SW/FW, Not In a Reasonable Timeframe Anyways... Since Unless You're a Major Customer, They Seem To Just Let You Dry-Up !

You Might Want To Evaluate Recent Solutions From Other Vendors - Such as 'MediaTek' ( See: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/mediatek ( e.g.: MediaTek MT7915DAN - Which Is a 'DBDC' Solution ) ; https://www.asiarf.com/wifi-mini-pcie/ ) & 'Celeno' ( See: https://lwn.net/Articles/860150/ (They Have Quite Some Most-Advanced Solutions, But I'm Not So Sure About Their End-User Availability) ).

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SteveR
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@IAmMrZ Thank you for those pointers. I'll do some research, looks like some good options there.

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AndrewG_Intel
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Hello IAmMrZ

Thank you for your patience in this matter.


In regards to this request and the previous information that you provided, please kindly refer to this article (we are aware the article mentions Windows but the same idea applies in general), regulatory limitations exist in certain countries where Hotspot/Soft AP is not allowed to operate on the 5GHz band by itself.

According to the article, could you please try to connect the Intel® Wi-Fi 6E AX210 to a Hardware AP operating on a specific (passive) 5GHz channel, and then configure the hostapd to the same channel? Please let us know if 5GHz-hostapd would work or not.


Best regards,

Andrew G.

Intel Customer Support Technician


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IAmMrZ
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@AndrewG_Intel: I Consider 'Intel' WiFi HW as FUBAR, Until You Fix Your Broken SW/FW.

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SteveR
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@AndrewG_Intel  It looks like Intel has chosen to disable standalone AP outside of 2.4Ghz due to perceived legal risk from regulatory issues. This is unnecessary, an excessive overinterpretation. Across the world 5GHz AP is permitted with country specific channel restrictions, indoor use etc. This is quite obviously demonstrated by the norm of wifi routers offering 5GHz wifi.

I wonder if the Intel legal dept have considered the other legal risk of selling a product deliberately made unfit for reasonably expected use cases. These wifi modules are client only, and not being described as such. They're being missold.

If you'd permit me a tortured analogy: you wouldn't sell a sports car with a speed limiter set at 20mph because that's the minimum speed limit and you want to completely prevent the risk to you of a customer exceeding any speed limit on any road.

IAmMrZ
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@SteveR: Some 'Realtek' Solutions Might Prove Useful, Too - Such As Those Supported By The Linux Kernel Drivers 'rtw88' (e.g.: The 11/2018-Released 'RTL8822CE' On The 'TX2-RTL8822CE' Module - a '802.11ac' Solution ; It's Buyable Here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001208642479.html ) & Not-Yet Mainline 'rtw89' (e.g.: The 'RTL8852AE' On The 'TX2-RTL8852AE' Module - a '802.11ax' Solution ; It's Buyable Here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003008252340.html ( Mind You: This Module Was Only FCC-Approved On 10/2020 - So To-Date It's Very Well Could (Still) Be an Early-Revision - Production or Not - Hardware ! ) ) .

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