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Steckplatz Wireless-AC 3165 auch für WI-FI 6 Modul möglich?

Armand-1
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Kann ich hier auf Deutsch posten, ich kann leider nicht englisch?

In meinem HP Envy 750-150nz befindet sich ein Intel Dualband Wireless-AC 3165 
Kann ich anstelle von dieser eine WIFI-6 montieren und wenn ja, welche soll ich nehmen?


Danke

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LeonWaksman
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You may consider AX200 (WiFi-6) or maybe more expensive AC210 (WiFi-6E).

Leon

 

Armand-1
Novice
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Besten Dank Leon! Meinst Du, dass die Beiden die Du mir empfohlen hast, eine Qualitäts und Speedverbesserung bringen, so dass ich den jetzigen 3165 austauschen soll, oder bringt es nicht wirklich was, im Vergleich zum finaziellen Aufwand? Danke für Deine Einschätzung und Hilfe

Ich habe eine Internetbox3 HIER und eine WLAN-Box2 HIER die beide WLAN-6 handeln

LeonWaksman
Super User
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Hi @Armand-1 

I don't have any of those WiFi adapters and Im really not a specialist in WiFi area, so I prefer not to answer to this question.  Theoretically the performance should be improved over 3165, but there are other factors playing role - router  and walls in your place. Lets see what other members answering. All I can see that those adapters may replace 3165, although I would recommend to ask HP support as well.

 

Regards

Leon

 

Armand-1
Novice
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Danke für Deine Ehrlichkeit Leon
Da ich der Überzeugung bin, dass ich einen besseren Speed und vielleicht auch konstantere Datenrate bekomme mit dem AX 210 vPro und das Modul keine grosse finanzielle Belastung ist, habe ich mich entschieden, es zu kaufen. Bin gespannt, ob es wirklich eine Performance Verbesserung bringt.
Hatte mit HP Support Kontakt aufgenommen, doch schlussendlich als Antwort bekam ich, dass er keine Infos bei sich hätte, welche Module ich anselle der 3165 nehmen könne.

Hat mich gefreut Dich kennen zu lernen.
Viele Grüsse aus der Schweiz

LeonWaksman
Super User
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I wish you success with the new adapter and hope it will meet your expectations. It will be nice if you will share the results with Community.

I hope that @n_scott_pearson  will give his opinion. Scott is very knowledgeable in this area.

 

Leon

 

n_scott_pearson
Super User Retired Employee
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I purchased an AX210 module recently, but I haven't had a chance to install it into any machines. I will endeavor to do so soonest and see what it will do with my tp-link AX1800.

As for specs, the brief for the AX200 and AX210 is available here: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/wireless/wi-fi-6-ax200-module-brief .html . Both are supposedly capable of 2400Mb/s. In my AX200 testing, however, I am (and will remain) limited to WiFi 6 and only1200Mb/s by my router. I am embarrased to say, but I have never figured out how to use both bands simultaneously and get to 1800Mb/s.

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LeonWaksman
Super User
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Hi Scott,

Thanks for adding your valuable information. It is something new for me that you can connect the Wifi adapter to work simultaneously in both bands (2.4 and 5)? I knew that, if you will set your router to have the same SSID for 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands, your computer will see only one name, but it will use only one of the two bands at time. It will automatically connect to the band with stronger signal. Am I wrong? I personally prefer to use different SSID for each band, to know for sure to which band I'm connected.

Regards

Leon

 

Armand-1
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gelöscht, wusste nicht wie man sonst einen Beitrag löscht, sorry

Armand-1
Novice
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gelöscht, wusste nicht wie man sonst einen Beitrag löscht, sorry

Armand-1
Novice
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Hello scott 

Unfortunately I don't speak English so google helped me. I hope he / she translates understandably

I am writing to you again, this time in English, because the translation from German into English does not seem to work

 

Thank you for your answer. Unfortunately I don't understand English, I found a German-language page, but maybe this is more of a translation, because when I want to look at the documents, they come in English HIER 

I have an internet box 3  HIER + HIER  and a WLAN-Box2   HIER 

Since I have poor 5GHz reception in one room, I bought the WLAN-Box2 as an amplifier.It is said that it also deals with standard 6, but when I look at the data, I don't see an ax. Is ac wave 2 Wi-Fi 6? 802.11a/b/g/n/ac wave 2 

WLAN-Box 2 supports the latest WLAN standard (Wi-Fi 6) and provides a significantly higher WLAN speed of up to 4.8 Gbit/s, a higher WLAN capacity for even more devices and a reduced risk of WLAN interference problems.

Speed ​​WLAN-Box2 is clearly lower than that of Internetbox3, but I don't need such a high speed anyway 2.2 Gbit / s (5 GHz)300 Mbit / s  (2.4 GHz) 

 

The Internebox - WiFi speeds:WLAN standard 802.11a / b / g / n / ac / axMaximum WLAN speed(theoretical data transmission) 4.8 Gbit / s (5 GHz)860 Mbit / s (2.4 GHz) 

 

I am curious whether the ordered Wifi6 module brings an improvement in performance.

How do you measure your speed? I measure them with the following tool:  HIER  

 

On the PC I work on the 5GHz network (via the WLAN box), the TV box connects directly to the Internet box via 5 GHz, our two smartphones connect via 2.4 GHz and the guest access, which as far as I know is on the 2.4 I only activate GHz when there are guests. The Internet box could be configured for band steering, but if I understand it correctly, then the corresponding device simply takes the strongest network, regardless of whether 2.4 or 5 GHz, and I don't want that, I want the fastest network, that's why I don't activate band steering, or set the same name for both SSID. 

 

Greetings Armand

Armand-1
Novice
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Hello Scott

Hope google solved the first translation earlier, hope this time too
  

 

One more thing, maybe you can help me with that. I bought the WLAN-Box to get a better WLAN connection and thus a more constant and faster data throughput, which I now have effectively ... but


when I do a test measurement with Cnlab there is an indication that there is a low signal level ... (screenshot A + B)However, when I go to the WLAN environment during the cnlab test, I see a 99% strong radio signal that contradicts itself (screenshot C)This signal must come from the WLAN-Box, because when I switch off the WLAN-Box, I see the following signal and that is certainly the router (Internetbox) (Screenshot D) Yes, it is the MAC address of the Internetbox.


Strange, the MAC address of the WLAN-Box is .... fa38, but in screenshot C you can see .... fa39 ???What I also find strange is that you can see C 802.11ax in the screenshot, although this format is not listed in the data sheet of the WLAN box (see previous post to you)Cnlab test contradicts itself in my opinion, what is wrong with bad or great signal?I think it's great.If I display the signal strength in Win10 (screenshot E + F), then it also shows me a super strength.

 

But...When I log into the router (Internet box), it shows me there, as with the cnlab test, poor WiFi reception(Screenshots G + H + I) 

 

funny what's right now?

I am aware that a radio connection is subject to various influences and therefore constancy cannot be guaranteed, e.g. I noticed that the signal value in screenshot F), during which I worked out here from 99% over 88% to 80% has decreased. An Ethernet connection is therefore the best, but not feasible for me. In practice, Powerline showed worse values ​​than WLAN, so I, as a layman, try to get the most out of it, but I will stop now because you can "spend" hours with it and maybe not get any further

 

Greeting
Armand

 

 

 

n_scott_pearson
Super User Retired Employee
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Well, I have an AX210 installed in a PCIe card carrier in my old 4th gen/8 Series system. I was able to get a 1021Mb/s connection and ~100MB/s (~800Mb/s) during a quick-and-dirty PC-to-PC file transfer.

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Armand-1
Novice
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Danke für Dein Feedback.
Mit welchem Programm hast Du die Geschwindigkeit gemessen?
n_scott_pearson
Super User Retired Employee
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Just a raw test with very large file copy.

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