Still trying to install VTune on ANY platform.

[hnaparst]

I understand that there is virtually no modern Linux system
that VTune runs on. Fine. After perusing the list of
ancient distros that VTune is supported on, I've decided
that perhaps Redhat 9.0 would be the easiest to configure.

After 3 days and about a million patches, the VTune
install fails with the message that I need
glibc2.3.2-27.9.7, which of course I already installed.
The /var/log/install.log file reads:

Wed 07 12:29:48: Success - Multiple package search: 'glibc' => 'name' => ''
Wed 07 12:29:48: Success - Multiple package search: 'glibc' => 'version' => ''
Wed 07 12:29:48: Success - Multiple package search: 'glibc' => 'name' => ''
Wed 07 12:29:48: Success - Multiple package search: 'glibc' => 'version' => ''
Wed 07 12:29:49: Success - Multiple package search: 'glibc' => 'name' => ''
Wed 07 12:29:49: Success - Multiple package search: 'glibc' => 'version' => ''
Wed 07 12:29:49: Success - Multiple package search: 'glibc' => 'name' => ''
Wed 07 12:29:49: Success - Multiple package search: 'glibc' => 'version' => ''
Wed 07 12:29:49: Success - Multiple package search: 'glibc' => 'version' => ''
Wed 07 12:29:49: Success - Multiple package search: 'glibc' => 'release' => ''

So, does anyone have any advice for me, either on how to get Redhat 9 to work, or even better...

Is there actually ANY distro that would take
less than a week to get VTune to run on?

[sharshera]

I guess your best bet is to use a RedHat Enterprise WS v3.0 which you have to pay for. The other thing that is free is to get SUSE 9.1 or at best 9.2 if it is supported and you should find the ISO on the net somewhere and you won't have to pay for it, they already released SUSE 9.3 for free, so finding an older one should be easy and free unlike RedHat.

That is all what I can tell.

I hope this helps.

After you install successfully and stat using this thing, you will really like what you will get out of it.


Hameed.

[hnaparst]

I'm getting the feeling that Intel would like us to
use SuSe. However, for some reason I don't understand,
Suse doesn't distribute isos. You have to use an ftp
process that requires an unauthenticated internet connection. My ISP requires authentication via a browser before accessing the internet. This makes the install process of Suse impossible, unless I'm missing something.

I think there must be some legal restriction on distributing Suse isos, otherwise someone would have already done it.

Do you think I could just install the Suse 9.0 kernel, and maybe a few other required packages from the distro and then get VTune to work?

Harold

[sharshera]

I can't tell what Intel wants.

SUSE ISOs are on the web. I just downloaded SUSE 9.3 Pro, from the web just a couple weeks ago, it comes in 5 CDs or one DVD, the CDs have more stuff in there.

Google would get you something since there is many mirrors that have it already. All what you don't get is support. Note that 9.3 might not work with Vtune most probably so you need a 9.X where X < 3 for sure as far as I know.

[hnaparst]

I actually do have Suse 9.3 Professional, which came with my
issue of Linux Pro Magazine. As you pointed out, Suse 9.3
is not supported by VTune. Neither is 9.2, I think.

9.1 is, but unless I'm mistaken,
the ISOs on the net are only for the Live versions, not the
ones you can install to your hard disk. Am I wrong?

The reason I said that Intel want us to use Suse is that the only
2.6 kernel that is supported is Suse's.

Harold

[sharshera]

I don't know about SUSE 9.1 but I think these are pretty old and they should be out there somewhere.

I didn't look for these in particular though.

If I came across them I will sure let you know.


Hameed.

[sharshera]

Okay, you were right, I can't find "easily" an ISO installable version of 9.1,

A set of mirrors for SUSE and others

http://www.linuxhelp.net/isos/


I will let you know if I find something else.

So, it seems it is an FTP install but I read that you can download the whole thing somehow locally and then install from your local network if you have one.

If that is a hassle for you, you can just buy the ISOs from somewhere or try torrents. They are pretty old and they should be out there somewhere.


Hameed.

[hnaparst]

Ah, now you're beginning to see the problem.
In fact, I think that SuSe won't legally allow ISOs unless
you buy them from SuSe. I doubt you'll be able to find
a torrent, either. Go ahead and try. I did.

It is sort of strange. I really think there is no downloadable
distribution that you can install VTune on without heavy patching.
I was hopeful about Redhat 9, but you saw what happened with that.

I know that Intel is working on a new version of VTune. I'll
just hang on to my SuSe 9.3 install disk and maybe the new
VTune will support that.

Any insight into whether or not I can just grab the same kernel
that SuSe 9.1 used from kernel.org and use that with VTune?

Harold

[jeffrey-gallagher]

One man's "heavy patching" is another man's "recommended patching," Harold.

If you stick to the releases as defined in the analyzer's release notes, you should be ok. Any upgrades, downgrades, alterations, and you risk possible issues.

Also please keep in mind that there are two ways to install VTune:

1) GUI and command line product (Windows or Linux)

2) Linux remote agent

For many of our customers, installing the remote agent is simpler, and works just fine either with the Windows VTune versions already installed on their networks, or a Linux VTune GUI running on a server that matches our installation parameters exactly.

In this model, a user sits at the GUI and launches profiling experiments across the network, aimed a the target Linux server running vtserver. I'm getting the impression that you've only attempted to install the full GUI/CLI, not the remote agent. Might be worth a try.

All that said, very sorry to read about the trouble you're having. A special thanks to you for taking the time to make sure we on the VTune team see and understand your issues. We know our lag on recent OS support is bothering some of our customers, and your detailed reports are very helpful to us to understanding that better.

cheers

jdg

Message Edited by jdgallag on 07-25-2005 09:16 AM

Message Edited by jdgallag on 07-25-2005 09:19 AM

Message Edited by jdgallag on 09-20-2005 02:08 PM

[hnaparst]

Well, "required patching" is more accurate.
I did a clean install of Redhat 9 and applied the
patches delineated in the release notes. My result was
as described in the first post in this thread.

I would be willing to try any OS that would give a high
likelihood of success with VTune. I'm almost tempted to
try Redhat 7.3, which doesn't have to be patched, except
that there is that worrisome note about ext2 corruption.

The remote solution is a possibility, too. Are there
restrictions on the OS of the target? What about the
probing computer? Why would this necessarily solve the
problem of no modern OSes being supported?

Harold

[David_A_Intel1]

In general, the remote agent is less dependent on the OS, thus the increased likelihood of succes.

BTW, VTune analyzer 3.0 on 7.3 is very reliable. This is my base installation because of the stability. Also, I've had good success with 3.0 on Red Hat* EL 3.0. The releases to avoid, in my opinion, are RH8, RH9 andFC2 (not officially supported, anyway).

All requirements, i.e., for host and target, are defined in the Release Notes.

[hnaparst]

You're my hero, Dave. 7.3 it is. I'll give it a go.
I was kind of hoping you'd say Redhat 5.2 was the really
reliable one. Just kidding.