Re: Stuck while building the VIP Example Design

Altera_Forum · ‎01-21-2009

We are trying to get the vip_example_design_3c120_v81_revc up and running on an Cyclone III EP3C120F780 Dev Kit. It is an427.pdf.

I am getting stuck in the Analysis & Elaboration with the following errors...

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Error: Node instance "my_alt_vip_clip" instantiates undefined entity "alt_vip_clip_GNC4EQ5CK4"

Error: Node instance "my_alt_vip_clip_1" instantiates undefined entity "alt_vip_clip_GNPBQZW3LV"

Error: Node instance "my_alt_vip_cpr" instantiates undefined entity "alt_vip_cpr_GN2NSRR73L"

Error: Node instance "my_alt_vip_crs" instantiates undefined entity "alt_vip_crs_GNWKGGJH2A"

Error: Node instance "my_alt_vip_csc" instantiates undefined entity "alt_vip_csc_GNFW7UOZX6"

Error: Node instance "my_alt_vip_dil" instantiates undefined entity "alt_vip_dil_GNN35ONPP5"

Error: Node instance "my_alt_vip_mix" instantiates undefined entity "alt_vip_mix_GNVFXMO3FD"

Error: Node instance "my_alt_vip_scl" instantiates undefined entity "alt_vip_scl_GN4UL6JZTM"

Error: Node instance "my_alt_vip_tpg" instantiates undefined entity "alt_vip_tpg_GNM5FCQ7QA"

Error: Node instance "my_alt_vip_vfb" instantiates undefined entity "alt_vip_vfb_GNV62V62MH"

Info: Generated suppressed messages file C:/Source/CycloneIII/vip_example_design_3c120_v81_revC/vip_top.map.smsg

Error: Quartus II Analysis & Elaboration was unsuccessful. 10 errors, 118 warnings

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I am new to FPGA development, so am currently somewhat overwhelmed with the many IDE options. We have added the VIP libraries to the project, something the document forgets to mention, but there is a good chance I could be missing some other critical library path.

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William Guynes

Altera_Forum · ‎01-27-2009

It appears this error occurs if the user executing the Quartus II IDE does not have Administrator permissions.

Is it Altera's position that all FPGA developers have Administrator access? (to the local machine, not the domain)

If not, what sub-permissions must the developer account be granted in order to successfully compile?

Altera_Forum · ‎01-29-2009

Try deleting both the DB and incremental_db directories and rebuild the project.

Mike

Altera_Forum · ‎01-29-2009

I had tried deleting db/* and incremental_db/* very early in the troubleshooting, but it wasn't having any effect.

For some reason Quartus is requiring Administrator permissions on the compile machine. An Altera S.R. is open to see exactly what permissions it requires. Does it really need everything?

I doubt this is a _directory_ permissions issue though. My regular account had Full permissions to the C:\Source directories (where my projects reside), but only had Read access to the C:\Altera branch. We opened up the C:\Altera to Full privileges in order to test that theory, but it gave the same error.

This appears to have something to do with executable permissions. I'm not a Windows administrative expert, but IT has established that the domain restrictions are not causing it. It is the local machine executable permissions which, as far as we can tell, requires the user to be a member of the "Administrator" group. If someone has a [Windows] "non-Administrator" account compiling, please speak up. I would be interested in hearing about it.

Altera_Forum · ‎01-29-2009

I am also having the exact same problem as above.

I should note that I am using windows vista.

The compiler seems unable to locate the video and image processing

IP block primatives.

I have been able to get the design to compile without problems on two other machines in my office, both of which are running windows XP.

Altera_Forum · ‎01-29-2009

I think I just figured out a workaround based on the comments about needing to have admin rights.

My login to my vista machine has admin permissions. It just does not invoke them unless you explicitly tell it to do so.

Quartus was unable to locate the VIP primitives because vista was keeping them hidden.

What I did was right click the short cut to quartus 8.1 on my desktop and hit run as administrator.

Now I no longer receive the undefined entity errors about the VIP primitives.

Altera_Forum · ‎01-29-2009

this is an interesting problem, wguynes: are you also running Windows Vista?

Altera_Forum · ‎01-30-2009

I am running Windows XP.

Altera_Forum · ‎02-17-2009

Hi

I do run Vista and see the same problem on 2 PC's

No change when I do start the Quartus8.1 shortcut "run as administrator"

Any new info on this problem?

Wiljan

Altera_Forum · ‎02-17-2009

I submitted a service request about the issue. Once I discovered it worked as Administrator I asked this question in an update...

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Compile finishes successfully *if* the Quartus II software is run as a Administrator (on the local machine, not the domain). Not all developers are given administrator access.

Is it Altera's position that all FPGA developers have full Administrator access?

If not, what sub-permissions must the user running the Quartus II IDE/Compiler have in order to compile successfully?

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...to which Altera responded...

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Thanks for your update. It is good news that you have solved this issue .

I have communicated this kind of issue with SW group. This is from the software environment requirement.

The IP Core and megacore need java/cusp support, so we recommend customer run the QII in root/ administrator.

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I am currently launching Quartus as Administrator and the problem is a non-issue. This is not an ideal development environment in my view, but I have to keep moving forward.

William Guynes

Altera_Forum · ‎02-17-2009

Hi wguynes

I just tried again as administrator and I still get those errors