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Implementation of Digital PID controller in FPGA

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I'm trying to implement a PI controller in FPGA using schematic entry method in altera quartus II . I'm using the following equivalent PI controller equation, 

 

c(n) = c(n-1)+kp*(e(n)-e(n-1))+Ki*T*e(n-1) 

 

where, 

c(n) = controller output 

Kp= proportional constant 

Ki=integral constant 

e(n)=Reference -actual input 

T=sampling period 

 

I'm implementing it for 8 bit data. I couldnot implement c(n-1) in the above equation using schematic entry. Can someone help me implement this? I would be grateful if you can suggest me other ways of implementing PI controller like in VHDL.
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Altera_Forum
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Mr. Frank, 

you are right, and i don't want a supervisor for my research because i already have one:). i just didn't see any comment since August,2010. 

 

now i'm working to understand the control and design part of digital PID , and the next step after finishing the simulation of the PID is to implement it based of FPGA. 

 

I have only one question, i'm going to buy Altera DE2-70 , according to your experince in this field do you think it's sufficient to implement the PID. 

 

Please advice me which board is the good for my research:unsure: . 

 

thanks in advanced
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I tried to attache the board link of Altera DE2-70 but it's not allowed yet for me :(

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I tried to attache the board link of Altera DE2-70 but it's not allowed yet for me :( 

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You'll need to clarify what you mean by "board link". 

 

The board has an Embedded USB-Blaster circuit on one of the USB connectors (it should be written on the PCB silkscreen next to the connector). I think its the outer-most connector (nearest the edge of the board). 

 

The other two USB connectors are connected to a USB PHY for custom applications. 

 

Cheers, 

Dave
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You'll need to clarify what you mean by "board link". 

 

The board has an Embedded USB-Blaster circuit on one of the USB connectors (it should be written on the PCB silkscreen next to the connector). I think its the outer-most connector (nearest the edge of the board). 

 

The other two USB connectors are connected to a USB PHY for custom applications. 

 

Cheers, 

Dave 

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The board link is the website link, sorry for confusing you :) 

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Please remove links from your message, then you will be able to submit your post."
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The board link is the website link, sorry for confusing you :) 

 

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Ah, I see. 

 

The DE2-70 has plenty of logic for a PID controller. The lower-cost DE0-nano, BeMicro, and BeMicro-SDK boards would also have enough logic. 

 

What is just as important, is what are your I/O requirements? Does your PID controller need an ADC or a DAC? How are you going to interface to the real-world?  

 

You need to look at both the FPGA board and the interface boards, and make sure you can connect them together without too much work. 

 

The DE2-70 and DE0-nano interface to boards via their GPIO headers. Terasic have some ADC/DAC boards. 

 

The BeMicro and BeMicro-SDK boards have an 80-pin edge connector. You can connect a PROTO board to that header for interfacing to custom logic. 

 

Cheers, 

Dave
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The DE2-70 has plenty of logic for a PID controller. The lower-cost DE0-nano, BeMicro, and BeMicro-SDK boards would also have enough logic. 

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I absolutely agree. I can tell, that I have implemented a power electronics controller with multiple PIDs on a small (8K LEs) Cyclone II, DE0 Nano has factor 2.5 more.
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I absolutely agree. I can tell, that I have implemented a power electronics controller with multiple PIDs on a small (8K LEs) Cyclone II, DE0 Nano has factor 2.5 more. 

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How about the Max7000 ,I got one free . is it plenty of logic for a PID controller??? 

 

If not i have to bye another board. 

 

Gazal
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How about the Max7000 ,I got one free . is it plenty of logic for a PID controller? 

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Not at all. MAX7000 is a CPLD, a reasonable solution for pure digital logic designs. Even the largest MAX7000 with 512 macro cells won't allow more than a rudimentary (e.g. 8 bit data width) controller. A recent development kit like DE-0 Nano would make much more sense.
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Not at all. MAX7000 is a CPLD, a reasonable solution for pure digital logic designs. Even the largest MAX7000 with 512 macro cells won't allow more than a rudimentary (e.g. 8 bit data width) controller. A recent development kit like DE-0 Nano would make much more sense. 

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well, i am not working on a conventional PID, so i'm a little bit worry if the Nano will be plenty to apply an intelligent algorithms.
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i am not working on a conventional PID, so i'm a little bit worry if the Nano will be plenty to apply an intelligent algorithms. 

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So implement your algorithm and synthesize it in a device. 

 

You do not need a board for this. Just select the same device as used on the DE0-nano and see if it has enough resources. If it does not, then try a larger device, or try a larger device from a specific evaluation board, eg., the DE2-115. 

 

Cheers, 

Dave
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