How to turn off or reduce optimization in questa sim

[JSLY]

I downloaded and installed questasim started edition 2021.2  for quartus prime lite 21.1 and the tool opens up and compiles and starts a simulation, but nothing shows up in the "OBJECS" window, almost acting like it is optimizing everything out?  where is the menu to change optimization to a lower level?  I know this is not related to the source files, because I can run the same simulation in Modelsim and everything works just fine.

[SyafieqS]

Hi Jeff,

You can go through below manual related to Modelsim as Modelsim and Questa is similar only different in features supported. In term of usability, this could be same. Below manual is related to object window. Is turn off and on the object window resolve the issue? Close it and go to view click object to on the window and see if it reflect any data objects.

https://www.microsemi.com/document-portal/doc_view/131619-modelsim-user#page=164

[JSLY]

Thank you for trying but closing the window and reopening the window gives the same results.   the compiler is optimizing out all the net so there is nothing to view?  In the terminal window it says loading the optimized design,  I do not know if this is related to the starter edition license, or if it is a configurable setting some where I can turn off or modify?

[GLT1]

Adding -voptargs=+acc  to the questa command line will turn off all optimizations and allow all signals to be visible.

[Maulik0405]

This works when also removed the following flag from the vsim - command.  

-novopt

Overall the command should be looking like this. 

vsim -voptargs=+acc -c -t 1ps -L cyclonev_ver -L altera_ver -L altera_mf_ver -L 220model_ver -L sgate_ver -L altera_lnsim_ver work.firstBlockTest_vlg_vec_tst

[SyafieqS]

Hi Jeff,

Have you tried adding -voptargs=+acc  to the questa as suggested below?

[JSLY]

# reading modelsim.ini
Questa>-voptargs=+acc
# invalid command name "-voptargs=+acc"

[GLT1]

It's part of the vsim command line used to open up questa.

vsim -voptargs=+acc <your simulation test bench name>

[JSLY]

Yes that helps Thank You.   However I hate typing,  is there a way to modify the TCL script or the modelsim.ini to turn off optimization so I can just do on the top menu   Simulate-> Start Simulation-><test bench>  .    right now using that command line vsim -voptargs=+acc <your simulation test bench name>  works just fine until you shut down the questa,  if you restart questa a later time, then you have to type in the vsim arguments all over again.     

[GLT1]

I'm not sure. You'd have to check the Questa documentation.

I just put the command to launch the simulation in a script or makefile and call that to launch the simulation.

That way I only have to type it once.

[SyafieqS]

Jeff,

What I could this of is to save the command in a script, invoke and read it whenever you want launch simulation 

Thus prevent you from typing.

[SyafieqS]

Jeff,

Let me know if there is any update or concern at your end

[SyafieqS]

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