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Should the lpm_counter and lpm_add_sub-megafunctions, etc. return to the MegaWizard?

Altera_Forum
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It looks like that these functions are missing in Q10.0 by purpose (according to mySupport). I think they are/were very useful for schematic design, therefore I want to start a poll to keep them. 

 

Regards, 

 

Thomas
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It looks like that these functions are missing in Q10.0 by purpose (according to mySupport). I think they are/were very useful for schematic design, therefore I want to start a poll to keep them. 

 

Regards, 

 

Thomas 

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Hi Thomas, 

 

do they offer some kind of conversion tool and do they recommend instead ? 

Why do I find still the lpm_add_sub in the Quartus 10.0 help without any indication 

that they should not used anymore ? 

 

Kind regards 

 

GPK
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Altera_Forum
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This was the basic response I got from mySupport: 

 

According to Integer Arithmetric User guide (http://www.altera.com/literature/ug/ug_lpm_alt_mfug.pdf) page 1, the LPM_ABS, LPM_ADD_SUB, LPM_COMPARE, LPM_COUNTER, LPM_DIVIDE, ALTACCUMULATE and ALTSQRT megafunctions are not available in the MegaWizard Plug-In Manager because they are not supported for new designs in the Quartus II 10.0 software. However, you can still compile existing designs in the new Quartus II software. 

 

Regards, 

 

Thomas
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Altera_Forum
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I get the feeling they are trying to steer people away from schematic design and use HDL instead, especially now Q10 has no simulator.

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I get the feeling they are trying to steer people away from schematic design and use HDL instead, especially now Q10 has no simulator. 

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I think, Altera always had a good schematic editor and a lot of people used it, at least for the top-level. (I think this is also true for many examples provided by Altera.) So I really hope they change their decision... 

 

BTW: Older Quartus-versions can be downloaded at: https://www.altera.com/download/archives/arc-index.jsp (https://www.altera.com/download/archives/arc-index.jsp

 

Thomas
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It looks like that these functions are missing in Q10.0 by purpose (according to mySupport). I think they are/were very useful for schematic design, therefore I want to start a poll to keep them. 

 

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LPM Mega Functions are back in V10.1, in part due to the comments in this forum.
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Altera_Forum
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Yes. I use them all the time.

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LPM Mega Functions are back in V10.1, in part due to the comments in this forum. 

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Yes, great to see that. 

 

Thomas
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I recently updated my version of Quartus to 11.0 from 9.1. I discovered that some of the LPM_ functions can not be edited using the Megawizard in versions later than 10.0. I do most of my design using the graphical design entry and I find the LPM functions very useful. Altera, please re-enable Megawizard support for all of the LPM functions!

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LPM library is phased out as Quartus II 11

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