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WHERE ARE THEY??
I upgradied my RAM from 256MB to 1GB, just for "The Aero Experience" ... at a cost of 74.99 from Packard Bell.I have a Packard Bell Easynote S4935, and running Vista fine, without problems.
THE ONE REALLY HUGE PROBLEM ... IS NO AERO SUPPORT ON 915/910 cards, THEREFORE NO FLIP 3D, LIVE PREVIEWS, DVD MAKER OR MOVIE MAKER SUPPORT.
As you can see i am LIVID!! at spending 220 plus 75 on RAM, checking whether my card is supported for Vista first ...
AND THEN ... not being able to use, the WHOLE Aero Experience, and DVD and Movie Maker.
I Contacted Microsoft, about this, and they has issued an official return request, so I could get a refund of Vista if I wanted. BUT THATS NOT THE POINT. I want Windows Vista. AND I WANT AERO TOO.
Especially with my Laptop being only 6 Months old. (NOT EVEN A YEAR!)
RELEASE THE XPDM or WDDM Drivers. Otherwise, you will lose out on alot of business, from THAUSAND of 915/910 Chipset users.
LINK TO PETITION - http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?intel915
I hope you can get this ISSUE solved. And Fast.
R-Fly
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Ill never buy Intel graphics again if this situation is not repaired, as I imagine will anyone who recently purchased a 915. Offering reasons as to why you fail to satisfycustomers is an impotent response to customer loss. So is pretending its out of your power. Why is Intel content with alienating customers?
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The GMA 900 worked perfectly on Beta versions of Vista, so the point here is clearly to make people upgrade their hardware (for laptops, replace the entire laptop).
The previous versions of the Microsoft Windows Vista upgrade advisor even stated that GMA 900 can support full Aero effects.
If I want my system to run at a snail's pace just so I can have Aero, it should be my choice, not theirs.
Even if it happens that Aero runs slower on the GMA 900, there are tweaks such as disabling transparency, removing animation effects, removing Flip3D, etc.
Intel driversshould at least allow the Vista Standard Interface to run on the GMA 900.
The least thing Intel should do now, is to post the old Vista Beta drivers that supported GMA 900 running Aero, and give users the final decision...
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There's a simpler explanation that makes more sense than Intel abruptly deciding in the midst of Vista Release Candidate 2 that they wanted you to buy new hardware:
We know that Intel's not afraid to release drivers which provide slower-then-Nvidia-and-ATI framerates on games or other applications-- the GMA900's appeal is that it provides decent-but-not-great graphics for a good price-- and wouldn't have balked at putting out a Vista driver which ran a little slower than nominal. That's why it shows up in the Vista beta drivers. Microsoft, on the other hand, does not want their new OS to look like it's slower than the old one, and has every incentive to shut out hardware it thinks will demonstrate this. Microsoft decided that they didn't like the performance of the 915G chipset graphics (whether or not we, the customers, would care is irrelevant to this decision) and found a legitimate (to them and their specs) hardware reason to refuse it.
The WDDM certification process is not a democracy, where all the hardware and software guys get together and decide by vote whether or not you can certify a driver. Microsoft has full right of refusal if the drivers are not to their liking or don't meet their spec, and in this case, there is a hardware limitation which is not fixable.
I don't know the "legality" of Intel releasing a beta driver for 915G which runs Aero; maybeJosh can shake one loose. But I am willing to bet considerable amounts of cash we will never see a WDDM-approvednon-beta driver for 915Gfor the simple reasonthatMicrosoft has already decided the chipset does not meet their requirements (no hardware scheduler) and will not approve one, even if Intel were to move heaven and earth to submit one.
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I welcome the news in Josh's last post, seems he does have the publics interest at heart which is refreshing. It seems silly on microsofts part not to include a graphics driver as they will be loosing out on upgrade sales. I for one would not buy vista, unless it looks better than xp. Sounds vain I know, but xp does everything I want it to do, thus the only reason I would pay for the upgrade is a better visual experience.
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Pleaase, liberates a driver for vista with the capacite to consume AEREO in whole, use some technology of renderizacin if the limitations are of hardware, or consuming readyboost of vista.
We are million that we have just bought our portable ones and not to be able enjoy Vista, regards.
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Merci Josh pour ses rponseset aussi tous les utilisateurs qui comme moi sont trs du de ne pouvoir utiliser l'effet visuelde l'AERO. J'espre qu'Intel ou Microsoft feront le ncessaire pour rgler ce malentendu et qu'ils penseront leurs clients. Essayer de leur faire dpenser encore de l'argent pour une nouvelle carte graphique ou un nouveau PC peut avoir pour rsultat de se diriger tout simplement sur un AMD avec Linux, et c'est bien la premire fois que j'y pense...
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(I guess one must have microsoft's permission to develop for the WDM, in addition to crossing their palms with silver)
I believe Windows Aero can use OpenGL in addition to Direct3D.
Alternatively, I suspect it is a small matter to re-enable comprehensive support for the Intel GMA platform in the existing Windows Vista 7.x.x.x GMA9xx drivers. Perhaps a handfull of choice engineers of those 90,000 or so clever employees at Intel could spend a few man hours on it? Or an appropriate contract, similar to the Tungsten Graphics firm's, could be tendered.
Any which way, our partners in Intel should break out of their administrative paralysis on this issue. Before we all flee to more reliable sources for our computational platform needs.
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Well my company just received a shipment of 165 laptops that have the 915express video, and I installed Vista Enterprise and discovered that the Aero Glass and associated features ie: Movie Maker and DVD Recorder were not functional. Consiquently, we have obtained an RMA for the whole shipment and have arranged to have all units replaced with AMD/ATI processors/chipsets for the same model of laptop. Guess Intel better wake up and come up with a Firmware upgrade and Driver for their products to remain compatible with the latest OS that Microsoft is producing. Fairwell INTEL or is that NUNTEL.
Next quarter we are buying another 200 laptops and 365 desktops and those also will not have INTEL inside...
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Dear Josh Bancroft:
Can you give me 915 Graphics Vista driver "beta" unofficial WDDM driver for me?
Dennis
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