P7350 support VT?

[darkbuck]

Hi, All

I recently ordered a notebook with P7350. I searched Intel website which said P7350 support Virtualization technology, http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLB53. But I cannot find vmx flag in /proc/cpuinfo. Does P7350 support VT? How can I enable it?

Yours

[David_O_Intel1]

From the info you gave (laptopmodel HP660 from Hasee) we've been able confirm that the VT is not supported by the OEM.

As explained above, the P7350 CPU supports VT (stated on the Intel product pages). Hasse does not, however, configure the feature through BIOS support. We've contacted Hasee, and they currently have no plans to enable it. Specific feature support is an OEM decison. Intel makes recommendations, but the final decision belongs to them.

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David Ott, maybe your getting confused with MSR 3Ah as the CPUID VMX flag is not affected by the BIOS.

The point is although the Intel documentation states the Intel P7350 supports VMX (VT) it has been shown that at least some P7350s do not support VMX, perhaps all P7350s do not support VMX. Even if Hasse wanted to enable P7350 VT through the BIOS they probably could not since the CPU in question does NOT appear to support it. What if the OP wishes to use an Open BIOS or even perhaps write his own which would include VT? He has bought this computer expecting the CPU to have VT support and it seems it doesn't.

Here is a link showing Intel's own Processor Identification Utility reporting that a P7350 does not support VT. Please take a look for yourself.

http://www.tempusfugit.ca/cpuid.html

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Sorry, it has been such a long time (3 months) since this thread was started that I forgot the OP had said MSR 3Ah value was 0. This would mean the lock bit has not been set and the OP would be free to use VMX if it were supported by the P7350.

[jancici]

I am trying to find some more info

so:

1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VT-d

2) looks that linux krenl will add this in new version 2.6.28

http://lwn.net/Articles/309159/

http://www.linuxhq.com/kernel/v2.6/28-rc8/virt/kvm/vtd.c

[faber_cpu]

Hi,

I have a similar problem as you. I've Asus B50A with P7350. In the specification is VT support, and also BIOS have VT-d options (Enable) but no virtualization. I just installed new linux kernel 2.6.28rc8 with virtualization support (kvm) and "kvm: no hardware support" also can't find vmx flag (proc/cpuinfo) ;(

P7350 OEM - massacre, Core 2 Duo without VT

[darkbuck]

Hi, David Ott. Ireally appreciate your effort contacting OEM vendor. But, it's really shame that Intel didn'tnotifythe end customers that OEMmay cut CPU features on Intel webpage. With such a simplereminder, I won't ordered this laptop withoutfully inspection. I really cannot understand why OEM cut features without Intel connivance and why Intel doesn't take any step to clear the confusion.

BTW, for technical side, is there anyway to re-enable VMX feature since, just as you mentioned, P7350 is still having VMX support according to Intel.

Quoting - David Ott (Intel)

From the info you gave (laptopmodel HP660 from Hasee) we've been able confirm that the VT is not supported by the OEM.

As explained above, the P7350 CPU supports VT (stated on the Intel product pages). Hasse does not, however, configure the feature through BIOS support. We've contacted Hasee, and they currently have no plans to enable it. Specific feature support is an OEM decison. Intel makes recommendations, but the final decision belongs to them.

[David_O_Intel1]

Thanks for your patience. I continue to follow-up internally on your issue, and to represent your position in the dicussions.

[rm__]

I recently bought a samsung p460aa01it and have the same issue. I see there is a bios upgrade available on their site but they don't have a changelog. David can you get in touch with samsung engineers to help me with this issue?

thank you in advance

[rm__]

Quoting - rm__

I recently bought a samsung p460aa01it and have the same issue. I see there is a bios upgrade available on their site but they don't have a changelog.

Bios update do not help.

[steu68]

I have the same problem with my HP dv5-1020el. HP recently enabled its bioses (H2OInsyde) to the Intel VT, but in this model there's no possibility to enable the Virtualization flag.

Any news about the P7350?

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Quoting - David Ott (Intel)

the P7350 CPU supports VT (stated on the Intel product pages).

After contacting Intel I can now confirm that the P7350 does not support Intel Virtualization Technology. It's probably not what most of you want to hear but hopefully clears up any confusion. At the time of writing this post some Intel product page(s) may show the incorrect VT information until updated, such ashttp://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLB53.

In the mean time please use the following link for the correct Intel Core2 Duo Processor P7350 VT information.
http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=36750&code=p7350

[ryan6491]

Quoting - terabytes

After contacting Intel I can now confirm that the P7350 does not support Intel Virtualization Technology. It's probably not what most of you want to hear but hopefully clears up any confusion. At the time of writing this post some Intel product page(s) may show the incorrect VT information until updated, such ashttp://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLB53.

In the mean time please use the following link for the correct Intel Core2 Duo Processor P7350 VT information.
http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=36750&code=p7350

So...up until today I believed my Toshiba laptop could do VT if only the BIOS had an option to enable it. I believe this because Intel's website said so, and I bought the laptop specifically because it met this requirement. Toshiba has always maintained that the BIOS is not the problem, and hey they were right!

Now I know otherwise, does anyone know what recourse any of us have with Intel? I need to upgrade to a new chip obviously, would Intel give me a trade-in deal!?!? Who would I contact? Hey sell me a P8400 for $100 and we'll call it even.

[steu68]

Quoting - ryan6491

Quoting - terabytes

After contacting Intel I can now confirm that the P7350 does not support Intel Virtualization Technology. It's probably not what most of you want to hear but hopefully clears up any confusion. At the time of writing this post some Intel product page(s) may show the incorrect VT information until updated, such ashttp://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLB53.

In the mean time please use the following link for the correct Intel Core2 Duo Processor P7350 VT information.
http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=36750&code=p7350

So...up until today I believed my Toshiba laptop could do VT if only the BIOS had an option to enable it. I believe this because Intel's website said so, and I bought the laptop specifically because it met this requirement. Toshiba has always maintained that the BIOS is not the problem, and hey they were right!

Now I know otherwise, does anyone know what recourse any of us have with Intel? I need to upgrade to a new chip obviously, would Intel give me a trade-in deal!?!? Who would I contact? Hey sell me a P8400 for $100 and we'll call it even.

Quote!

[darkbuck]

Does Intel provide us option to upgrade P7350 to processors with VT support? I really need VT for my laptop. I ordered that laptop just because Intel provides incorrect information on their website. Sigh...

Quoting - terabytes

After contacting Intel I can now confirm that the P7350 does not support Intel Virtualization Technology. It's probably not what most of you want to hear but hopefully clears up any confusion. At the time of writing this post some Intel product page(s) may show the incorrect VT information until updated, such ashttp://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLB53.

In the mean time please use the following link for the correct Intel Core2 Duo Processor P7350 VT information.
http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=36750&code=p7350

[ryan6491]

Hey we should get together on a class action lawsuit... We'll settle in 2017 after all the appeals are completed, and our settlement after attorney fees?

------------>>> $25 coupon for an Intel t-shirt that reads: Sorry about the misprint!

Mr. Otellini, I demand satisfaction. While I would agree that misprints happen, we are among the set of users that is unfortunate enough to have been left out of one of the most exciting architecture advancements in the past few years, virtualization technology. We put down our good money, and now we're a handful of bright-minded, aspiring virtualization users that can't participate in this marvel.

Ok, I have writer's block now. Maybe someone at Slashdot will pick this up where I left off.

[darkbuck]

Though Intel has change their website, I still have the screenshot at that time when Intel claimed P7350 is VT capable. It seems it's really an Intel fault.

Quoting - terabytes

After contacting Intel I can now confirm that the P7350 does not support Intel Virtualization Technology. It's probably not what most of you want to hear but hopefully clears up any confusion. At the time of writing this post some Intel product page(s) may show the incorrect VT information until updated, such ashttp://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLB53.

In the mean time please use the following link for the correct Intel Core2 Duo Processor P7350 VT information.
http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=36750&code=p7350

[bkjj]

Quoting - darkbuck

Where can we get a look at the old screeshot. I just bought a new laptop for VMware and am upset this is not enabled. Thanks

[faber_cpu]

Maybe there is any way to enable VT,

http://ivoidwarranties.blogspot.com/2009/04/core-2-duo-p7350-vs-intel-vt-x.html

???

[ryan6491]

Quoting - faber.cpu

Maybe there is any way to enable VT,

http://ivoidwarranties.blogspot.com/2009/04/core-2-duo-p7350-vs-intel-vt-x.html

???

Wishful thinking...I've alerady confirmed beyond all doubt that my P7350 has no VT enabled. The MacBook guy got really lucky, or it's a different chip, or something.

So, I'm contemplating the purchase of a P8400, P8600, or P9500 as a replacement. Cost is $218-360 new.

If I knew about this problem ahead of time, I just would have picked out a different laptop with a different chip. What a hassle.