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idata
Community Manager
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Feature Request - implement EDID override

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Hello,

it would be nice if the Intel Graphics driver would support overriding EDID information like described in this document from Microsoft:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg487330 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg487330

Why is this needed?

In a common HTPC (multimedia PC) setup with a PC, AVR (audio video receiver) and a television, the EDID information stored in the receiver & television that is passed to the PC determines the video and audio capabilities like: supported resolutions, supported audio formats etc ..

The problem is that very often the system only "sees" the EDID information of the television, and not that of the receiver, and so you don't get support for audio formats like DTS, DTS-HD, Dolby TrueHD that are supported by the receiver ...

The latest Sandy bridge CPU and corresponding chipset support all these sound standards, but they often not useable cause of these EDID problems.

Actually it really does not matter what video card / integrated graphics you use, NVidia and AMD graphics have the same problem, but their drivers

allows people to override the EDID information like is described in the above linked document from Microsoft.

Please implement this stuff, shouldn't be that hard to do, for one of you senior driver programmers it's probably just a few hours of work ...

Thank you

Christian

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ccLic1
Novice
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Sounds good, thanks for the update and your efforts. It seems like you're our only pressure point for this.

Well, I think we will calm down for a couple of weeks or so then.

SInte1
Beginner
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Intel's response is pathetic: This issue was first posted in 2011. It is now 2016.

Get out the prune juice, Intel. You are moving way too slowly, and it stinks for your customers.

Meanwhile, we will not be buying ANYTHING crippled by Intel Graphics. Every one of our brand-new, Intel-Graphics-infected Windows 10 (another corporate nightmare) boxes is plagued by the shift-all-windows-to-primary-monitor-when-monitors-turned-off "Windows functionality," and, unlike NVIDIA, inexperienced-in-graphics Intel has neglected to make good on -- FOR NEARLY FIVE YEARS -- requests for EDID override (essential for other fixes, as well).

This, folks, is why MONOPOLIES ARE BAD FOR THE CONSUMER.

ccLic1
Novice
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By the way, I've struggled with trying to do the same thing (custom res/ EDID override) on Linux for the past 2 days to no avail. Closest I've come to is the display flashing black for a second and the OS being fooled that the resolution and refresh rate had actually changed (even to ridiculous values like 100Hz on a cheap 60Hz laptop panel) although it kept displaying 60Hz as before. I've heard a few mentions that it is possible on Linux eventhough it's broken on Windows. Did it ever work? Is it broken on Linux now too? Does anybody know more about this?

idata
Community Manager
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It's great to get an update,

Thank you Bryce for making something happen about this. I hope you can forgive the many outbursts of anger and frustration - but it should be expected with such frustrating problems.

Keep it up and thanks again.

Phil

idata
Community Manager
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It does work on Linux. Look for my thread where I share how to achieve it.

Remember, it depends on hardware support of your monitor and cable.

ccLic1
Novice
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3 weeks later...

HRoma1
Beginner
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Yes, that's the problem. Maybe we can bump this discussion EVERY DAY and get their attention? I don't understand why INTEL ignore.

ccLic1
Novice
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Welp, might as well.

4 years 4 months 15 days 14 hours 27 minutes have passed between the thread start and this very post.

Also, I'm not entirely sure but doesn't lack of support for EDID overrides mean that these drivers fail to adhere to WDDM specifications?

AH1
Beginner
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4 years 4 months 18 days.

EEmm
Beginner
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FWIW, I registered just to bump this thread up.

I am facing the audio sync loss issue with my Yamaha AVR and LG TV.

Frustrating, having to restart multiple times.

Even more frustrating to know Intel is ignoring this known issue for so long.

ARose6
Novice
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Any updates yet?

Has anyone successfully overridden the EDID on a laptop with Intel graphics (or Intel + Nvidia's/AMD's dedicated GPU) yet so that the Intel graphics respect/recognize the overridden EDID? I guess on Linux it is somehow possible.

But on Windows?

TSchr1
Beginner
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Yet another bump.

This is ridiculous; the only way around this, provided you aren't running a non-windows OS, is to reflash the display's firmware.

Every other major graphics manufacturer's drivers respects EDID overrides, yet Intel still doesn't. At this point this is not a feature request and more of a bug fix.

EDIT: Changed wording in case it wasn't obvious what I was referring to by EDID overrides

MLee58
Novice
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I have also joined the forums just to help continue to bump this thread. Intel, please do the right thing.

ccLic1
Novice
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LJaco5
Beginner
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Any possibility of getting an update as to where we stand with this request at the moment?

Thanks

Bryce__Intel
Employee
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Hi All,

I'm still championing this for you. Realize that this is currently expected behavior, so it's not a bug, it's a change request for an added feature. I'm continuing to advocate this through the process. It may not seem like it would be much work-effort to approve, but there are a lot of moving parts to consider in every change that is made to our software that covers so many different components; every component owner needs to be involved on changes like this, and all need to be aligned. So, we're not there, no promises, but communication is in process and no one has denied the request again so that's positive.

For some perspective as well, meant as humbly as possible, our drivers support billions of products, which vary in architecture, so keeping issue count for the masses to a minimum is a finely tuned process with a lot of strategy involved to ensure one fix doesn't break another (or the whole thing). I know this feature is important to all on this thread and I'm sure many others who haven't yet commented, though our commitment is to keep the drivers as solid as possible for as many of the billions of products they support. A major change, well even little changes, that can potentially cause harm to the stability of products for billions are not decided on lightly. Ample justification is typically needed even when major OEM's request little changes. Less than 20k people have viewed this thread since 2011, there's only 94 replies, some from the same people, which is not representative of the majority. That said, engineering IS still looking into feasibility of this request because we DO value the feedback of our users, (AND I'm doing such a great job keeping it out in front of them) so if it makes sense and it's feasible we'll see what is decided. So please stay tuned and I'll update back when there's something of value to inform you of.

ZSaun
Novice
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"Realize that this is currently expected behavior, so it's not a bug"

Just because it is expected does not automatically mean it can't be a bug... My display is rated @ 75hz yet I can't run it at this because of the missing "feature". If I had AMD or Nvidia hardware I could run my display to it's actual specifications (as it should be). This is just one small example, if you look through various forums around the internet many more people have issues related to EDID overrides.

So I would argue that this is indeed a bug, just give the users SOME way of achieving this. It could be through third party applications, driver hacks, anything. As for the numbers, most people just shrug it off and live with the issues, not many people know of these forums, and quite frankly Intel is not really consumer friendly when it comes to these sorts of things.

An "easy" solution could be to just support the EDID overrides at the driver level and pass off the rest of the work to other developers, this would protect the average user from "harming" their own equipment from changing something they shouldn't have in the graphics panel.

http://www.monitortests.com/forum/thread-custom-resolution-utility-cru http://www.monitortests.com/forum/thread-custom-resolution-utility-cru

This utility already does the work, the developer has stated many times "Intel's graphics driver does not support EDID overrides" which is why he does not support Intel setups.

So why not just add the support in and pass off the rest to someone else? That way only advanced used would be able to change what is needed while the average user would not even know these options existed.

At this point I am just shooting out random suggestions because I have almost no faith that anything will be done, I simply want to run my display at 75hz. 😕

safas
Beginner
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I have the same problem with my 4k Panasonic.

It is connected via MST displayport (3840x2160@60Hz/50Hz/24Hz). Intel is incapable to fix the driver since one and a half year now!

And that's definitely "a bug".

Bryce__Intel
Employee
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ZacharyS

Our driver reads what the panel sends in the EDID. If the panel sends the wrong EDID or the EDID is corrupted/lost along its path being reported to our driver then we won't show the missing modes and won't enable them. This is functioning as designed so panels don't get pushed to settings that aren't supported and either get unrecoverable blackscreen or harm the panel.

If your EDID is stating 75Hz is supported and our driver reads it and is still not supporting it, then this could be a bug. I'd ask, please provide your EDID by opening CUI>Options & Support>Information Center>Save = paste the file in your reply. You too Seppdog. Please also offer your cable being used (DP to DP or converter?) (Brand?), also provide your PC brand/model if applicable (DT or laptop?) and the connection path you're using. (Ex: Brand/Model> connected via DP>DP cable to <<em>AVR-Brand/model> connected via HDMI>DP cable into home built DT <<em>mobo-Brand/model>)

Please provide the above as a minimum.

To be even more helpful, please provide the table below filled out completely. Really appreciate it guys.

Table - https://communities.intel.com/thread/77761 https://communities.intel.com/thread/77761

safas
Beginner
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Have a look at this thread ( ). There are all informations from the year 2014.

The TV is connected directly with a DP cable. I have tested the same setup with other graphic cards and they are working correctly.