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ELupo
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Problems simulating ADC in DE10-Lite board using Quartus Prime Lite Edition in VHDL designs, and at gate level in verilog designs

Our course is actually based in DE0 Cyclone III board and VHDL using an old version of Quartus II.

We are analyzing to move to DE10-Lite board and VHDL using Quartus Prime Lite Edition. We consider very interesting mixed analog/digital designs.

We have many problems simulating the ADC.

It works well at RTL level in verilog designs, but ADC output data is kept constant to 0 at gate level (it is necessary, previously to simulate, to manually correct the .vo file to include the connection of clk_dft in adcblock). Is it possible to obtain desired ADC output data at gate level? How?

It doesn't work at RTL level in VHDL designs because ADC is mainly described in verilog and the simulator of Lite Edition doesn't support mixed VHDL/verilog designs. At gate level, ADC output data is kept constant to 0 (it is necessary, previously to simulate, to manually correct the .vho file to include the connection of clk_dft in adcblock). It works as designs in verilog at gate level. Is it possible to correctly simulate VHDL designs? How?

Thanks for your answer. Truly yours,

Emili Lupon

Universitat Politècnica de Catalunya

emili.lupon@upc.edu

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Isaac_V_Intel
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Hi Emili, sorry for the late response

 

I saw you have another open case regarding VHDL/Verilog. I want to know if it is the same problem?

 

You can use ModelSim*-Intel® FPGA Starter Edition Software it is free and no licensed required to simulate what you need. Follow the next link for download.

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/software/programmable/quartus-prime/model-sim.html

 

Regards.

Isaac.

 

ELupo
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Thank you very much Isaac for your answer. Yes. It is the same problem, but now it has been solved. In solving it, I have detected three bugs in, at least, version 19.1 of Quartus Prime Lite software, when you try to simulate the ADC in MAX10 FPGA family. I will report these three bugs later in this message. I already had ModelSim-Intel FPGA Starter Edition installed, but I though that it was not a mixed VHDL/verilog simulator and I tried to simulate a full VHDL design. My VHDL design is named prova_ADC and my modular ADC core Intel FPGA IP variation is named nucli_ADC1. WHAT IT WORKS RTL simulation works well if you generate the modular ADC core IP in verilog. To aid in the explanation of bugs described below, it follows the content of file .../nucli_ADC1/simulation/submodules/nucli_ADC1_modular_adc_0.v, which consists in an appropriately parameterized instance of module altera_modular_adc_control: // nucli_ADC1_modular_adc_0.v // This file was auto-generated from altera_modular_adc_hw.tcl. If you edit it your changes // will probably be lost. // // Generated using ACDS version 19.1 670 `timescale 1 ps / 1 ps module nucli_ADC1_modular_adc_0 #( parameter is_this_first_or_second_adc = 1 ) ( input wire clock_clk, // clock.clk input wire reset_sink_reset_n, // reset_sink.reset_n input wire adc_pll_clock_clk, // adc_pll_clock.clk input wire adc_pll_locked_export, // adc_pll_locked.export input wire command_valid, // command.valid input wire [4:0] command_channel, // .channel input wire command_startofpacket, // .startofpacket input wire command_endofpacket, // .endofpacket output wire command_ready, // .ready output wire response_valid, // response.valid output wire [4:0] response_channel, // .channel output wire [11:0] response_data, // .data output wire response_startofpacket, // .startofpacket output wire response_endofpacket // .endofpacket ); generate // If any of the display statements (or deliberately broken // instantiations) within this generate block triggers then this module // has been instantiated this module with a set of parameters different // from those it was generated for. This will usually result in a // non-functioning system. if (is_this_first_or_second_adc != 1) begin initial begin $display("Generated module instantiated with wrong parameters"); $stop; end instantiated_with_wrong_parameters_error_see_comment_above is_this_first_or_second_adc_check ( .error(1'b1) ); end endgenerate altera_modular_adc_control #( .clkdiv (2), .tsclkdiv (1), .tsclksel (1), .hard_pwd (0), .prescalar (0), .refsel (0), .device_partname_fivechar_prefix ("10M50"), .is_this_first_or_second_adc (1), .analog_input_pin_mask (63), .dual_adc_mode (0), .enable_usr_sim (1), .reference_voltage_sim (49648), .simfilename_ch0 (""), .simfilename_ch1 ("prova_ADC_arduino_ain0.txt"), .simfilename_ch2 ("prova_ADC_arduino_ain1.txt"), .simfilename_ch3 ("prova_ADC_arduino_ain2.txt"), .simfilename_ch4 ("prova_ADC_arduino_ain3.txt"), .simfilename_ch5 ("prova_ADC_arduino_ain4.txt"), .simfilename_ch6 ("prova_ADC_arduino_ain5.txt"), .simfilename_ch7 (""), .simfilename_ch8 (""), .simfilename_ch9 (""), .simfilename_ch10 (""), .simfilename_ch11 (""), .simfilename_ch12 (""), .simfilename_ch13 (""), .simfilename_ch14 (""), .simfilename_ch15 (""), .simfilename_ch16 ("") ) control_internal ( .clk (clock_clk), // clock.clk .cmd_valid (command_valid), // command.valid .cmd_channel (command_channel), // .channel .cmd_sop (command_startofpacket), // .startofpacket .cmd_eop (command_endofpacket), // .endofpacket .cmd_ready (command_ready), // .ready .rst_n (reset_sink_reset_n), // reset_sink.reset_n .rsp_valid (response_valid), // response.valid .rsp_channel (response_channel), // .channel .rsp_data (response_data), // .data .rsp_sop (response_startofpacket), // .startofpacket .rsp_eop (response_endofpacket), // .endofpacket .clk_in_pll_c0 (adc_pll_clock_clk), // adc_pll_clock.clk .clk_in_pll_locked (adc_pll_locked_export), // conduit_end.export .sync_valid (), // (terminated) .sync_ready (1'b0) // (terminated) ); endmodule WHAT DOES NOT WORK (BUG 1) RTL simulation does not work if you generate the modular ADC core IP in VHDL. The problem here is that Quartus Prime Lite generates file .../nucli_ADC1/simulation/sumodules/nucli_ADC1_modular_adc_0.vhd as an instance of an unknown non-parameterized component named nucli_ADC1_modular_adc_0_control_internal instead of an appropriately parameterized instance of the component named altera_modular_adc_control, as in the verilog case. It follows the content of the generated file: -- nucli_ADC1_modular_adc_0.vhd -- This file was auto-generated from altera_modular_adc_hw.tcl. If you edit it your changes -- will probably be lost.
ELupo
Beginner
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Thank you very much Isaac for your answer.

 

Yes. It is the same problem, but now it has been solved. In solving it, I have detected three bugs in, at least, version 19.1 of Quartus Prime Lite software, when you try to simulate the ADC in MAX10 FPGA family. I will report these three bugs later in this message.

 

I already had ModelSim-Intel FPGA Starter Edition installed, but I though that it was not a mixed VHDL/verilog simulator and I tried to simulate a full VHDL design. My VHDL design is named prova_ADC and my modular ADC core Intel FPGA IP variation is named nucli_ADC1.

 

WHAT IT WORKS

 

RTL simulation works well if you generate the modular ADC core IP in verilog. To aid in the explanation of bugs described below, it follows the content of file .../nucli_ADC1/simulation/submodules/nucli_ADC1_modular_adc_0.v, which consists in an appropriately parameterized instance of module altera_modular_adc_control:

 

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WHAT DOES NOT WORK (BUG 1)

 

RTL simulation does not work if you generate the modular ADC core IP in VHDL. The problem here is that Quartus Prime Lite generates file .../nucli_ADC1/simulation/sumodules/nucli_ADC1_modular_adc_0.vhd as an instance of an unknown non-parameterized component named nucli_ADC1_modular_adc_0_control_internal instead of an appropriately parameterized instance of the component named altera_modular_adc_control, as in the verilog case. It follows the content of the generated file:

 

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RTL simulation works well if you modify the content of file .../nucli_ADC1/simulation/submodules/nucli_ADC1_modular_adc_0.vhd to the correct one that is, an appropriately parameterized instance of the component named altera_modular_adc_control:

 

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WHAT DOES NOT WORK (BUG 2)

 

Gate level simulation does not work if you generate the compiled design in VHDL, described in file .../simulation/modelsim/prova_ADC.vho. The problem here is that Quartus Prime Lite generates an instance of the parameterized component fiftyfivenm_adcblock unassigning some generic parameters (enable_usr_sim, reference_voltage_sim, and simfilename_chx) and a port (clk_dft), and wrongly assigning another generic parameter (upper case letter must be used in device_partname_fivechar_prefix). It follows the relevant part of the content of the generated file .../simulation/modelsim/prova_ADC.vho:

 

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Gate level simulation works well if you modify the file .../simulation/modelsim/prova_ADC.vho to include an instance of the parameterized component fiftyfivenm_adcblock with all generic parameters and ports correctly assigned:

 

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WHAT DOES NOT WORK (BUG 3)

 

Gate level simulation does not work if you generate the compiled design in verilog, described in file .../simulation/modelsim/prova_ADC.vo. The problem here is that Quartus Prime Lite generates an instance of the parameterized module fiftyfivenm_adcblock unassigning some parameters (enable_usr_sim, reference_voltage_sim, and simfilename_chx) and a port (clk_dft), and wrongly assigning another parameter (upper case letter must be used in device_partname_fivechar_prefix). It follows the relevant part of the content of the generated file .../simulation/modelsim/prova_ADC.vo:

 

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Gate level simulation works well if you modify the file .../simulation/modelsim/prova_ADC.vo to include an instance of the parameterized module fiftyfivenm_adcblock with all parameters and ports correctly assigned:

 

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Please, try to correct these bugs in future versions of Quartus Prime. Thank you very much.

 

Best regards,

 

Emili Lupon

Isaac_V_Intel
Employee
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Thank you for the feedback regarding the tool. We appreciate it.

 

I will work these bugs with engineering and try to solve that on future versions.

 

I believe the responses, in this case, have addressed your questions, if not feel free to post an update anytime during the close-pending period.

 

Best regards.

 

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