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Documentación u hoja de datos de compatibilidad de cyclone 10 modelo 10CL016YU484C8G

Zogcorey8
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Hola Comunidad de intel muchas gracias por su ayuda, aportes. Me ah ayudado mucho. Esta vez tengo otra consulta me dijeron que para tener más información al respecto (si es posible, claro esta) preguntará si alguien podría ofrecer o aporta la documentación de compatibilidad de la cyclone 10 modelo 10CL016YU484C8G. Se daño mi chip fpga y deseo reemplazarlo lo más antes posible. En casi de no haber documentación ofrezco los siguientes modelos, y si alguno de esos podría sustituirl al original muchas gracias: cyclone 10 modelo 10CL016YE144C8G, cyclone 10 modelo 10CL016YF484C8G, cyclone 10 modelo 10CL016YF484C8G, cyclone 10 modelo 10CL016YE144I7G, cyclone 10 modelo 10CL016YF484C6G. Descartó el cyclone 10 modelo 10CL016YU484I7G porque me dijeron que ese sería el perfecto. Pero para tener un conocimiento más del asunto me gustaría ver si alguien podría proporcionar la documentación de compatibilidad de la cyclone 10 o sino que me diga cual de esos modelos anterior dicho podría reemplazar al 10CL016YU484C8G. Muchas gracias espero a sus respuestas. Gracias por su tiempo.
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roeekalinsky
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Please refer to:

 

1. The original thread where you asked about this, where I answered and listed factors you need to consider:

https://community.intel.com/t5/FPGA-SoC-And-CPLD-Boards-And/Fpga-cyclone-10-10CL016YU484C8G/m-p/1500561

 

2. The Cyclone 10 LP Product Table document, which shows the available combinations of device, package type, and the associated I/O count:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/content-details/714190/intel-cyclone-10-lp-fpgas-family-overview-product-table.html

 

You'll notice that there are also devices larger than the 10CL016 available in the same U484 package, but with fewer user I/O, so not 100% pin-for-pin compatible. The pinouts are a subset, so if you wanted to consider one of these larger devices, you'll have to check the pinout differences and determine if the differences are compatible with how things are connected on your board. You'll also need to determine if the power supplies on your board are sufficient for the power requirements of the larger device. You'll also need to make sure that your means of programming the device on the board (SPI flash or whatever) can support the larger bit stream of the larger device. And you will also need the ability to rebuild your design to target the larger device. And there may be additional considerations, thermal, etc. So it might be a possibility, but it might be more than you can take on if you're asking these rudimentary questions. So in your case, you probably need to just stick to 10CL016 in the U484 package to keep it simple, if that option is available to you.

 

3. The Cyclone 10 LP Device Overview document, which also shows most of the above:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/docs/programmable/683879/current/device-overview.html

 

Especially pertinent to your situation, see sections on I/O vertical migration and package plan:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/docs/programmable/683879/current/i-o-vertical-migration.html

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/docs/programmable/683879/current/package-plan.html

 

4. The Cyclone 10 LP Device Datasheet document, which describes the available speed & temperature grades and associated specifications.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/docs/programmable/683251/current/device-datasheet.html

 

5. And here's the Cyclone 10 LP main page with all available documentation:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/fpga/cyclone/10/lp/docs.html

 

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roeekalinsky
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Please refer to:

 

1. The original thread where you asked about this, where I answered and listed factors you need to consider:

https://community.intel.com/t5/FPGA-SoC-And-CPLD-Boards-And/Fpga-cyclone-10-10CL016YU484C8G/m-p/1500561

 

2. The Cyclone 10 LP Product Table document, which shows the available combinations of device, package type, and the associated I/O count:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/content-details/714190/intel-cyclone-10-lp-fpgas-family-overview-product-table.html

 

You'll notice that there are also devices larger than the 10CL016 available in the same U484 package, but with fewer user I/O, so not 100% pin-for-pin compatible. The pinouts are a subset, so if you wanted to consider one of these larger devices, you'll have to check the pinout differences and determine if the differences are compatible with how things are connected on your board. You'll also need to determine if the power supplies on your board are sufficient for the power requirements of the larger device. You'll also need to make sure that your means of programming the device on the board (SPI flash or whatever) can support the larger bit stream of the larger device. And you will also need the ability to rebuild your design to target the larger device. And there may be additional considerations, thermal, etc. So it might be a possibility, but it might be more than you can take on if you're asking these rudimentary questions. So in your case, you probably need to just stick to 10CL016 in the U484 package to keep it simple, if that option is available to you.

 

3. The Cyclone 10 LP Device Overview document, which also shows most of the above:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/docs/programmable/683879/current/device-overview.html

 

Especially pertinent to your situation, see sections on I/O vertical migration and package plan:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/docs/programmable/683879/current/i-o-vertical-migration.html

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/docs/programmable/683879/current/package-plan.html

 

4. The Cyclone 10 LP Device Datasheet document, which describes the available speed & temperature grades and associated specifications.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/docs/programmable/683251/current/device-datasheet.html

 

5. And here's the Cyclone 10 LP main page with all available documentation:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/fpga/cyclone/10/lp/docs.html

 

Zogcorey8
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Muchísimas gracias caballero por su ayuda y tiempo. De verdad se lo digo muchas gracias. El motivo de esto es que se daño mi fpga y es un proyecto para la universidad y no sabia por donde empezar. Muchas gracias por la información y su tiempo/ conocimientos. De verdad se lo agradezco mucho. Tema aparte si optó por la cyclone 10 modelo 10CL016YU256I7G (que según lo que poseo es la más fiable en caso de no disponer la original, sus pines y su arquitectura son iguales a las del la 10CL016YU484C8G?. Esa información está en los siguientes enlaces que envío no? Muchus gracias y disculpe las molestias.
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roeekalinsky
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No, 10CL016YU256I7G does not have the same pinout as 10CL016YU484C8G.  It does not even have the same package.

 

U256 package:

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/altera-www/global/en_US/pdfs/literature/packaging/04R00372-03.pdf

 

U484 package:

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/altera-www/global/en_US/pdfs/literature/packaging/04R00375-04.pdf

 

Different packages.

Zogcorey8
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Muchas gracias, copiado y entendido. Si dudas respecto al tema. Muchas gracias por si ayuda y aportes. Apreció mucho su tiempo y ayuda. Gracias roekalinsky.
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roeekalinsky
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You're welcome.  Good luck!

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