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Hi,
there is a problem with laptops which have Intel CPU + GTX 1050/1050Ti/1060/1070/GT 640M. The problem is, whenever you try to do some action on the OS, discrete GPU is triggered and it causes a 0.5s freeze.
Some actions, which cause the dGPU to wake up and lock up the whole system for about 0,5 seconds are:
- Left click on battery-icon in task-bar
- Opening Chrome-browser
- Opening Windows Image Viewer (app + classic Foto viewer)
- Opening system control panel
- Provocation any animation on task bar (e.g. thumbnail-preview, ...)
- Loading a new tab in Firefox
Here is a video demonstrating Display Setting Freeze:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7K1SpCQgAY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7K1SpCQgAY
Another video showing dGPU switch on a lot of simple tasks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-euiZmHZwlc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-euiZmHZwlc
Another one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txQZWfWFhlc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txQZWfWFhlc
We have tried updating every software possible, but no luck.
- Intel driver
- NVIDIA driver
- Chipset driver
- BIOS
- Firmware
The problem can be found on all laptop brands: ASUS, Acer, Clevo, Dell, Gigabyte, HP, Lenovo, MSI, Razer.The problem can be solved by either disabling Intel GPU, which forces the system to always work with NVIDIA, or disabling NVIDIA GPU. Both of them is not an option though, as if you disable Intel, not only you will drain the battery faster, but also some games will stop working. If you disable NVIDIA, then what is the point of buying a laptop with a discrete GPU?There is a also a workaround: configuring https://github.com/jobeid/TrayPwrD3 TrayPwrD3 to always work with NVIDIA in the backgound. This keeps the NVIDIA GPU alive but also drains battery faster. And there is no poaint in that as it renders Optimus useless!So, manufacturers have to come up with a fix.Thank you.
Reported Models:
Acer VN7-793G
Acer Nitro 5 (AN515-51-536M)
Acer Nitro 5, i5 7300HQ, GTX1050 Ti
Acer Predator Helios 300 (PH317-51)
ASUS N580VD
Asus GL503VD
Asus GL503
Alienware 13 R3
Alienware 17 R4
Dell 7567
- Dell XPS L521x
Dell Inspiron 15 Gaming 7577
Dell 7510 (Early 2017)
Gigabyte Aero15W
GIGABYTE P37XV6
Gigabyte P35 v6
Gigabyte Aero 15
HP Omen 15
HP Omen HD630 + GTX1050
HP Pavilion
Lenovo Y720
Lenovo Y520
- Lenovo W530
Lenovo P51 Xeon
- MSI GE63VR 7RF Raider 4K
MSI GS60 2PE
MSI GS43VR 7RE
MSI GS63VR 4K
MSI GS73VR 7RG Stealth Pro
MSI GS73VR 7RF
MSI GP62MVR 7RF
MSI GE72MVR 7RG
MSI GE73VR 7RE
MSI GE73VR 7RF
MSI GP72MVR
MSI GX63VR
Monster ABRA A7 V7.2 (Clevo)
Razer Blade 14
Razer Blade 14 2017
Razer Blade 2017
Samsung Odyssey i7 7700 + GTX 1050
- XMG A517-dnj
XMG P507
Non-Effected Models:
- MSI PL62 7RC
Effected Windows Versions:
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Hello folks,
Thank you for your patience while we investigated this further. I understand the frustrations caused by this issue and apologize for the inconvenience it may be bringing you. By now, most of you have installed our latest graphics driver (https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27650 15.65.5.4982) and seen the right-click desktop issue resolved (and some other right-click stutters as well).
After implementing the code change, we noticed there were some remaining right-click stutters happening in various areas of the OS experience and that's what we've been investigating until now; we wanted to be very clear if we were still contributing to them. We've now concluded that we are not, we're only in the stack 1 millisecond which is acceptable and the remaining time is from other parties and the three others in the stack, to the best of my knowledge are aware, investigating, and treating this with high priority.
This concludes Intel's investigation so I'm now considering this thread closed, though Intel will remain in communication with the other parties to assist in any way we can should they desire.
Special thanks to coolrecep for reporting this and all the others helping with config details and testing so we could improve our drivers as quickly as possible. We value all of your contributions.
.:Bryce:.
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I have the same problem in MSI GP62MVR 7RF.
Fix it please.
Thanks.
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Come on Intel! This is a serious problem!
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Hello coolrecep
Thank you for reaching the Intel Communities.
I understand you would like to get this fixed on your system and we can certainly check on it to look for a possible solution.
In this case, some data would of great help to get this handled properly, please follow the instructions from the next post and then add it here as an answer.
Thanks,
Esteban C
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System freezes for a second when we right click on desktop or when we click on battery icon.
Please place an X to the right of the option showing how often you see this issue using specific steps. (Ex: 'Every few times a game is started it flickers.' <- This would be "Often")<p>
Always (100%): X
Often (51-99%):
Sporadic (20-50%):
Very Sporadic (<20%):
Hardware (HW)
Brand and Model of the system.
MSI GS43VR 7RE
Hybrid or switchable graphics system?
ie Does it have AMD or NV graphics too?
Intel HD 630 + NVIDIA GTX 1060
Make and model of any Displays that are used to see the issue (see note2 below).
LFP = Local Flat Panel (Laptop panel)EFP</...
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Hi,
Dell Inspiron 7567. I have the same problem.
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Is this the behavior you are currently facing?
Thanks,
Esteban C
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Sorry but I did not get the point of those videos you have posted.
There are no problem in the videos you have attached.
Our problem is:
You have Intel HD 630 + NVIDIA GTX 1060 laptop. You right click on desktop and the system freezes for a second. You click on battery icon, system freezes again. I saw no freeze and NVIDIA GPU in your videos...
But I really aprreciate Intel's approach to the topic. Al least you are trying to help unlike Microsoft.
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This is a better video showing the problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txQZWfWFhlc Windows 10 and NVIDIA Optimus issue — Freezing/Stuttering UI - YouTube
Examples:
Right click -> display settings -> mouse freeze
Click on Battery tray icon -> mouse freeze
Open a PowerPoint file -> start slide show -> mouse freeze
Plus too many others to list.
All the above are one to two second freezes or stutters.
So far the only workaround (not solution) for me has been https://github.com/jobeid/TrayPwrD3 TrayPwrD3. Still waiting for some permanent fix. I'm starting to think this is a hardware problem on all laptops with this architecture.
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Unfortunately, mee too. Will be returning my laptop for a Coffee Lake model if this is not fixed...
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Freezing on right-click fix is pretty simple. Type in search box "regedit" (open as an adminstrator). Head to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\Background\ shellex\ContextMenuHandlers then delete both igfxcui and igfxDTCM. Voila! (It only affects righ-click menu intel entry).
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BigTimeTA, the right click is already fixed with a recent Windows/Intel driver update. So your registry edit is unnecessary.
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Unfortunately it did not fix my problem on Dell Inspiron 7577 (I7 7700HQ, GTX 1060 MaxQ). I had to sort it out this way. I think Max Q drivers only made things worse. however I still get micro lag when opening battery icon from taskbar or opening control panel. If you got a workaround you would be much appreciated.
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This problem is not present when there is simply an intel driver, it appears only when you install the nvidia. Maybe intel driver conflict with nvidia driver.
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Thank you for the answer provided, coolrecep, let me check, I will continue to look for a system with hybrid graphics (Intel + dedicated graphics adapter) to perform the tests and proceed accordingly looking for a solution.
Thanks,
Esteban C
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Thank you for your support. There are nearly 200 people who just clicked on "I have the same problem" on Microsoft forums: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-performance/intel-nvidia-laptop-freeze-problem/93e7004a-62b1-4211-8e37-4c136608865e?tm=1509222059465 Intel + NVIDIA Laptop Freeze Problem - Microsoft Community https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-performance/intel-nvidia-laptop-freeze-problem/93e7004a-62b1-4211-8e37-4c136608865e%3Ftm%3D1509222059465
This is a widespread issue and we are waiting for a fix for more than 6 months.
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Any updates? If this is not solved until 2018, we will have to return our laptops. We are really fed up with this problem.
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