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New Website display not satisfactory for desktop users. (IOW not on cell phone)

I use a desktop computer with a 4K monitor. The text display, that is the columnar layout is too narrow. For longer posts, I must unnecessarily scroll vertically due to paragraphs wrapping too soon. And for code posts containing code</> I have to unnecessarily scroll both horizontally and vertically.

Please take into consideration the display settings .OR. permit the forum message text box to be dragged wider.

Also, the Intel Community is now missing the HPC section.

And...

When I am in a section location, and start a new post, the New Message page does not remember the section I was creating the new message from.

Jim Dempsey

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Re: New Website display not satisfactory for desktop users. (IOW not on cell phone)

I second Jim Dempsey's criticisms of the new display format. I do not use tablets or phones (except landline). I use a PC or a Chromebook.

The second column of the new display format, i.e., "Recommendations", mostly contains useless stuff. Please give the user an option to turn off this column. For instance, when reading Jim's post, here is this "recommendation": Flashing Zenfone 5 Using Intel Phone flash tool. Softuses binary error . How on earth is this relevant to a reader of the Fortran compiler forum?

It is annoying to see a third of the display, already squeezed as it is, devoted to utterly irrelevant information. Please give the user some flexibility regarding what to see.

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I agree with mecej4's comment regarding the (useless) recommendations, as they are " utterly irrelevant information" to the Forum thread.

Jim Dempsey

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All good feedback. Let us take a look at that. I'm not sure what is possible but we'll take a look. 

 

Thank you for the feedback!

Mary T.

Support Community Manager

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Mary T.:

Thanks for looking into this.

Here is what I suspect: the engine scans the text of the post for individual words and, without bothering to decipher what the sentences mean, looks up other posts from other forums and recommends posts containing such words. Jim complained that he does not use a phone to read forum posts. So, the forum engine recommends a post about flashing a phone. If I write:

     "Jim Dempsey is an unrepentant fink."

the engine will try to recommend posts containing "unrepentant" and "fink".

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I agree the new layout of this peer-to-peer forum is greatly, greatly unsatisfactory and disappointing to say the least.  For a peer-to-peer forum, can not the advice and feedback of some "peers" be sought before making the change?

Also, is there a way to display line numbers in inserted code samples?

 

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Another issue is that there is no longer a "Scroll to top" link after posts or at the bottom of the page. I'd rather see the breadcrumbs repeated at the bottom of the page so that I can go back to the forum page without clicking twice, but now I have to scroll all the way back.

Steve (aka "Doctor Fortran") - https://stevelionel.com/drfortran
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My avatar is gone, and I can't find a page to set it.

Steve (aka "Doctor Fortran") - https://stevelionel.com/drfortran
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Hi,

Ok, I have a meeting set up for next week with a UX designer to review alternate layouts. We have several options and if you don't need the Recommendations section, we can use that extra space.

@Steve_Lionel asked about Avatars, I will look into this as well as the Go To Top Of Page buttons, and anything else posted here. This new platform just went live yesterday afternoon so give me a few days, but know that I am here to make this a great experience. Just ask and I'll see what I can do.

Thanks,

Mary T.

Support Community Manager

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Mary T.:

A couple of more lost features:

All private messages from the past (about a decade's worth) gone. All uploaded and saved files and images gone.

No provision for replying to a post by private mail. No directory of members.

While composing this, I see below the text box the following: 

"Hint: @ links to members, content" .
 
I have no idea what that means. What is the syntax for identifying members and identifying content? Will someone write up a users guide or provide a link to a tutorial on the new forum?
 
Thanks.
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Dear all,

I totally agree on everything what had been said about the functionality and the layout. It's not satisfactory on a desktop.

Further I noticed, that I cannot read the content without been logged in. So its closed for all, who have not an account? Is that intended or a bug? Is it the same for others, too?

EDIT: Once logged in, I can read and access without being logged in. So some cookie stuff maybe.

 

BR,

Johannes

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Re: New Website display not satisfactory for desktop users. (IOW not on cell phone)

When you are viewing a topic, have you tried selecting "printer friendly page" in the options?

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It removes the recommendations and it might help in the interim.

Doc

 

 

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Yes the printer layout is much better.

I just had 20 emails from the forum about "badges" I have "earned" whist doing pretty much nothing. I have managed to find the switch it off setting, hope that works.

 

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@MaryT_Intel 

I can now set an avatar, but all I can do there is select from a bunch of different colored generic outlines. My former photo avatar is gone and there's no option to re-upload it. Curiously, some users (such as Jim) still have their photo avatars.

All my private messages are gone, too, and I have lost the Black Belt's privilege of starting a new private conversation.

It was also annoying that usernames now have more restrictions, but I'll cope with that.

Another thing gone is the link to the Fortran compiler FAQ that was in a "sticky". Oh, and the stickies themselves are gone.

I am trying not to get discouraged here, but I have been through too many of these forum conversions at Intel, and each one seems to be less useful to users than the last.

Steve (aka "Doctor Fortran") - https://stevelionel.com/drfortran
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Re: New Website display not satisfactory for desktop users. (IOW not on cell phone)

Agree but there is a "top" button at the very bottom.

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@mecej4 

The @ thing is where you type the character and a popup appears with the usernames of people who have posted in the thread. You can type a couple of characters of their name to filter it. Then click the selection and it appears as it does above.

The content bit is a bit more confusing. Initially a random assortment of your own threads appears, but you can type anything and it will find other posts in all the forums containing that keyword.  Unless your keyword is very unusual, I don't find that useful. But here's what it looks like: Doctor Fortran has a new home! 

We also seem to have lost the ability to quote text from an earlier post.

Steve (aka "Doctor Fortran") - https://stevelionel.com/drfortran
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Thanks, Al Hill, I would not have thought of trying to be printer friendly since I don't have a printer.

Secondly, if you choose "printer friendly", reply to a post and go back to browsing, you will again be in user-unfriendly mode. You have to find the Options button again by scrolling back to the top of the page, and choose "printer friendly" again. Intel, please let users choose "printer friendly" as a sticky setting. In monitor unfriendly mode, I found one post that filled up my 1920 X 1024 screen allowed only three lines of text of about 90 character each. The rest was space, titles and peripheral information such as "Kudos", etc.

In the toolbar above the box where we type in text, there are no buttons for

  1.  entering special characters such as mathematical symbols, greek letters, etc.
  2. entering subscripts and superscripts
  3. quoting sections of text

as we did in the two previous versions of the forum.

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When clicking on Steve Lionel (name where picture is supposed to show), it shows that he has been a member since 2017.

Well I know I have been communicating with him on IDZ much longer than that. 2017 may have been his retirement date. I hope all of his marvelous earlier posts are not missing. 6-18-2018 was the earliest on this new Community website.

Jim Dempsey

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I find it interesting and perhaps significant that on this topic I agree 100% with FortranFan. 

I am not saying this is unusual, merely never observed previously. 

Dear Intel - perhaps that has a statistically significant meaning. 

As a final note - I highly respect everything Fortran Fan writes and usually FF has a significant impact on my opinions and thoughts. 

At the moment, I am doing a lot of COVID death analysis and so I am seeing a lot of sad stuff, this place gives me a chance to chill and listen to real experts and to calm down. 

But I am willing to give anything a go, I mean I once thought about having a Bud Light and then I thought better, but you know a Bud Light is probably ok sometime, just not now, ok never, but I am sure someone drinks it somewhere. -- This is humour aimed at my father who drank lite beer.   

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Jim, my Intel and post-Intel posts are from different user IDs. I would hope that my current one is from at least 2016, as I created it then, but 2017 is ok. My old employee posts are still here - for example: Visual Fortran Newsletter Articles 

However, I note that my identity is tagged "Employee" whereas it used to say "Retired" by my name, so there's some confusion there.

As for not seeing my posts prior to 2018, that's because the forum feature showing "all activity" tops out at 100 pages, and doesn't allow you to sort. Here's one of my early ones post-retirement .

Another issue I have found is that if I leave my PC for a few hours and then try to open the forum again, I get a "401 - Authentication Failed: Error validating SAML message" error. Closing the browser and reopening, or deleting the site cookies, lets me log in again.

Steve (aka "Doctor Fortran") - https://stevelionel.com/drfortran
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