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Stratix 10 Dual-Port RAM (with 2 clocks) generation problem

Amir_Nassie
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Hi,

i'm converting my Stratix V design to Stratix 10.

in Stratix V i used the MegaWizard in quartus (13.1 i think) to create an SRAM with:

  • 2 read+write ports
  • 512 rows of 128bits each (same data bus width on both ports)
  • different clock for each of the ports
  • byte_enable support on both ports

 

using QuarusPro "IP Catalog" i tried to get the same SRAM functionality.

i used the "memory user guide" from Intels website

at section 4.1.3. RAM: 2-PORT Intel FPGA IP Parameters

 

In the optional clocking schemes for the generated SRAM.

There is an option for different clocks for the 2 ports (A & B)

 

Amir_Nassie_0-1606138951592.jpeg

 

 

When I try to generate the SRAM in the IP Catalog. I configure the parameters as follows :

 

Amir_Nassie_1-1606138951630.jpeg

Then

Amir_Nassie_2-1606138951670.jpeg

 

And then

When coming to select the clocking scheme, I do not see the suggested option by the DOC.

If selecting "Customize clocks for A and B ports"

I can not use byte_enable on the ports

 

Amir_Nassie_3-1606138951766.png

 

please advise.

 

Best Regards,

Amir Nassie

 

 

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JohnT_Intel
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Hi,


If you look into https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/programmable/us/en/pdfs/literature/hb/stratix-10/ug-s10-memory.pdf Table 10, it will shows that Stratix 10 does not support True Dual Port with byte enable features.


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sstrell
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I think there's a disconnect between the documentation and the parameter editor.  I believe that the "Customize" option is what you need to select, but are you saying that when you do that, the byte_enable options for the two ports that you show in your last screenshot disappear?  I don't have the software open at the moment to check this.

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Amir_Nassie
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Hi,

thanks for the help.

yes, i agree regarding the possibly misleading documentation. (who is authorized to approve that?)

 

regarding the "Customize clocks for A and B ports",
yes it is impossible to generate byte_enable for the ports.

when selecting such clocking scheme i get the below error :

Error: stx10_fpga_dpmram512x128.ram_2port_0: In 'Clks/Rd, Byte En' tab, 'Emulate TDP dual clock mode' must be enabled if clocking method is 'Customize clocks for A and B ports' for Stratix 10 while using two read/write ports.

 

So I'm adding the TDP emulation check mark.

Then I select to have byte_enable (for port A for example)

And get the below error

 

Error: stx10_fpga_dpmram512x128.ram_2port_0: In 'Clks/Rd, Byte En' tab, 'Byte Enable Ports' are unavailable while using 'Emulate TDP dual clock mode' feature.

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JohnT_Intel
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Hi,


I would recommend you to use "Dual Clock: use separate 'input' and 'output' clocks" setting.


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Amir_Nassie
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Thanks,

but how do i get the 2 read+write ports (each in a different clock domain) functionality ?

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JohnT_Intel
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Hi,


If you look into https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/programmable/us/en/pdfs/literature/hb/stratix-10/ug-s10-memory.pdf Table 10, it will shows that Stratix 10 does not support True Dual Port with byte enable features.


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